When the blade is hovering over them both, Walt makes the same plea for survival that he made to Tuco two seasons ago - that Gus needs Walt to cook and that Walt won't cook if he kills Jesse.
That's a nice parallel! I remember that when Walt was talking to Tuco, he seemed defiant but when talking to Gus, he sounded pathetic (to me anyway).
Gus focuses hard on Jesse's reaction. While Walt is cowering and seeming close to throwing up, Jesse leans forward in his chair, full of fight and rage and blowfish courage.
Jesse's reaction shot lasted over 10 seconds. I counted because it really struck me. I don't think I've ever seen a reaction shot last this long. Like you said, this was a important turning point and I think that's why it was so long.
If his house is full of people and his ears are full of music and his brain is full of meth, then Jesse will be so full there'll be no room in his mind for the memory of Gale.
I love the way you worded that.
There's only one significant Walt and Jesse scene in 'Open House' though it's
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Walt was more intimidated by Gus. As crazy and menacing as Tuco was, he wasn't smart like Gus. I think Walt was terrified by a rival who might be able to out-think him
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wooo hooo!! *is proud* I always thought there must have been a reason for Gus to kill Victor other than to scare Walt and Jesse. Victor seemed like a capable guy, so why dispose of a valuable staff member just to scare someone you despise? I'm glad Walter provided an explication of Gus's action in season 5 and I think it made perfect sense. Victor took liberties that weren't his to make and Gus didn't like it. Maybe it wasn't the first time. Two birds one stone.
I think Jesse was sincere when he told Walt he was going to kill Gus. He was thinking about it when making the coffee and when Mike gave him the gun... but he realized he couldn't murder again, even if he knew Gus deserved it.
I always thought the main reason Victor was killed was because he got himself seen at Gale's murder scene and Gus couldn't risk one of his guys being brought in as a suspect. Victor knew he'd screwed up. I think that's why Victor was trying to prove he could do the cook. He was trying to redeem himself.
Gus disliking underlings who take liberties is a little ironic considering this was how Gus himself was perceived by the Mexican cartel. Speaking of parallels I'm looking forward to recapping 'Hermanos' and comparing Walt/Jesse with Gus/Max.
Walt really blunders with Jesse in this half of S4, I think. Managing to be a self-centered schmuck when Jesse wants to feel valued and heard, and then treating Jesse like an extension of his own will as though he'll be the good Gus-killer robot just like the Gale-killer.
I think the increasing disconnect between Walter and Jesse can in part be traced to this part of Breaking Bad, where Walt just does not get Jesse. He doesn't know how to connect to Jesse, and his attempts to paint a bright future, the two of them together against the world, runs smack up against Jesse's realization that the world he's been in since high school has a really nasty underbelly and he's staring it in the face.
Go-carting! :( I get that Walt is a total square, but he could just chill and have a drink while Jesse amuses himself if he's really that worried.
Walt blunders with Jesse all through S4, only winning Jesse back in the end with his most evil act of manipulation yet. It's a little sad that Walt has known Jesse so much longer than Mike and Gus, yet they are so much quicker to realize Jesse's strengths and needs. But then Walt really just had 'Kill Gus' tunnel vision all through S4.
Oh the Go Carts. The look in Jesse's eyes after Walt says no is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever seen. I get even angrier in 'Say My Name' when Walt mocks Jesse's Go Carts. That's just cold, man.
Thanks for reading! It's the fact that Walt and Skyler were talking about Gale's murder right before the 'One who knocks' speech so Walt is claiming Jesse's knock as his own knock.
Walt may have a high IQ but he has a hopelessly low EQ,
hahaha basically.
Walt doesn't usually make me yell abuse at the TV screen, but man...when Walt says no to Go-Carting with Jesse I want to slap him a hundred times while screaming "HOW COULD YOU! HOW COULD YOU, YOU MONSTER??!!!"
That is the correct response.
Walt has been facing death for a year and he'd surely choose to live his final moments in his own personal Die Hard fantasy. Prophetic!
Jesse having "two jobs" really means Jesse having two partners or on an emotional level; two dads. So Walt now has a chess game and a love triangle to deal with. lolll but also, accurate.
Or as Walt - hilariously - puts it "It's all about ME!". Walt in a nutshell ;)
Jesse is still a pet trained to obey whoever takes ownership of him. Jesse is everyone's bitch and he only lives now because he has to come when his masters call. :( :( :(
I'm always amazed when rewatching how much is foreshadowed in earlier episodes. Walt's desire to go out in a rain of bullets and all the Jesse = dog symbolism *sigh*
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That's a nice parallel! I remember that when Walt was talking to Tuco, he seemed defiant but when talking to Gus, he sounded pathetic (to me anyway).
Gus focuses hard on Jesse's reaction. While Walt is cowering and seeming close to throwing up, Jesse leans forward in his chair, full of fight and rage and blowfish courage.
Jesse's reaction shot lasted over 10 seconds. I counted because it really struck me. I don't think I've ever seen a reaction shot last this long. Like you said, this was a important turning point and I think that's why it was so long.
If his house is full of people and his ears are full of music and his brain is full of meth, then Jesse will be so full there'll be no room in his mind for the memory of Gale.
I love the way you worded that.
There's only one significant Walt and Jesse scene in 'Open House' though it's ( ... )
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wooo hooo!! *is proud* I always thought there must have been a reason for Gus to kill Victor other than to scare Walt and Jesse. Victor seemed like a capable guy, so why dispose of a valuable staff member just to scare someone you despise? I'm glad Walter provided an explication of Gus's action in season 5 and I think it made perfect sense. Victor took liberties that weren't his to make and Gus didn't like it. Maybe it wasn't the first time. Two birds one stone.
I think Jesse was sincere when he told Walt he was going to kill Gus. He was thinking about it when making the coffee and when Mike gave him the gun... but he realized he couldn't murder again, even if he knew Gus deserved it.
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Gus disliking underlings who take liberties is a little ironic considering this was how Gus himself was perceived by the Mexican cartel. Speaking of parallels I'm looking forward to recapping 'Hermanos' and comparing Walt/Jesse with Gus/Max.
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Walt really blunders with Jesse in this half of S4, I think. Managing to be a self-centered schmuck when Jesse wants to feel valued and heard, and then treating Jesse like an extension of his own will as though he'll be the good Gus-killer robot just like the Gale-killer.
I think the increasing disconnect between Walter and Jesse can in part be traced to this part of Breaking Bad, where Walt just does not get Jesse. He doesn't know how to connect to Jesse, and his attempts to paint a bright future, the two of them together against the world, runs smack up against Jesse's realization that the world he's been in since high school has a really nasty underbelly and he's staring it in the face.
Go-carting! :( I get that Walt is a total square, but he could just chill and have a drink while Jesse amuses himself if he's really that worried.
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Oh the Go Carts. The look in Jesse's eyes after Walt says no is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever seen. I get even angrier in 'Say My Name' when Walt mocks Jesse's Go Carts. That's just cold, man.
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hahaha basically.
Walt doesn't usually make me yell abuse at the TV screen, but man...when Walt says no to Go-Carting with Jesse I want to slap him a hundred times while screaming "HOW COULD YOU! HOW COULD YOU, YOU MONSTER??!!!"
That is the correct response.
Walt has been facing death for a year and he'd surely choose to live his final moments in his own personal Die Hard fantasy.
Prophetic!
Jesse having "two jobs" really means Jesse having two partners or on an emotional level; two dads. So Walt now has a chess game and a love triangle to deal with.
lolll but also, accurate.
Or as Walt - hilariously - puts it "It's all about ME!".
Walt in a nutshell ;)
Jesse is still a pet trained to obey whoever takes ownership of him. Jesse is everyone's bitch and he only lives now because he has to come when his masters call.
:( :( :(
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