~*~friendly reminder~*~ (◡ ‿ ◡ ✿) - FFA Post # 317

[sunnymodffa]

There's a new critter who's just moved into the compound. Please ignore him if he attempts to bum a cigarette from you. He's trying to quit, and the second-hand smoke aggravates Ginger's asthma something fierce. Please don't enable his bad habits!*

*He knows where the smoking section is. He's just not willing to pass the Kraken to get to it.

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[anonymous]

Tops!

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[anonymous]

I really liked the first Hellsing anime.

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[anonymous]

Me, too.

The music was amazing.

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[anonymous]

+1

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[anonymous]

Ditto.

The OVA had great animation quality and some other things going for it, but the TV anime had much better pacing, and IMO the decision not to include silly/chibi comedy scenes (except in the next-episode previews) was a solid one that the OVA should have imitated.

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[anonymous]

+1

I like the first Hellsing better than Hellsing Ultimate.

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[anonymous]

Me too! I was actually pretty shocked and turned off when I realised that the canon was about weird Nazi stuff. (That awkward moment when I asked my dad to buy the manga for me on my birthday because I didn't knoooow. That was a super disappointing birthday present, even if I eventually started liking the series. But well, it took me a couple of years.)

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[anonymous]

Craig!Bond's first reaction to Whishaw!Q was obviously "Who the bloody hell is this tosser hitting on me? Sorry, mate, you're not my type."

Rendering most of the ship's fic pretty OOC.

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[anonymous]

Because the first impression you have of someone is always the one you keep? I mean, I'm not saying that there aren't loads of reasons to view the ship as OOC, but that's hardly a very good one. Some random kid comes up to you while you're looking at the most famous painting in England and starts hitting on you, of course you're going to be put off, but that doesn't mean that that's the impression he ended the film with

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[anonymous]

No, I understand people changing their opinions when they get to know someone. I just find that Bond/Q fics go for the "Bond is obviously in love with Q and finds his appearance and demeanor attractive, who wouldn't?" approach to getting them together, which is not, predominately, what I see in fic for a lot of other pairings.

I think it's lazy writing and also a case of projection for a lot of the writers.

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[anonymous]

I get that. I think it's because Whishaw basically scores on every single front a fangirl could possibly rate him on: adorable and small but bitchy and smart and just about as gay as a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide. He's not at all Bond's type initially (though there are some great parallels to the "I'm the money" scene in Casino Royale, but not only will I out myself if I start talking about those, I might literally never stop talking about them), and I absolutely agree that any fic that starts with them at the end of that scene in any sort of relationship outside of A) Bond letting the thirsty twink suck his cock; B) truly epic hatesex in which Q tries to fuck the smarm off Bond's face; or C) fervent masturbation in the toilets because Q wants it and wants it bad--it's all going to read OOC. They don't have the relationship built up to support sex, and there's not enough interest on Bond's part to actively initiate it without it being a challenge or a no-strings (and likely no-reciprocation) offer on Q's part.

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[anonymous]

DA

So can I get in on that "Bond letting the thirsty twink suck his cock" fic? Because that sounds delicious and I do fucking want.

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[anonymous]

Yep, pretty much! Hence the projection. It happens in a lot of fandoms, really, this is just the one in which I've been noticing it lately.

though there are some great parallels to the "I'm the money" scene in Casino Royale, but not only will I out myself if I start talking about those, I might literally never stop talking about them

There is. Craig!Bond likes women who throw shit at him and take him down a peg. I'm not entirely sure if I think that preference carries over exactly to what kind of men he's attracted to, especially since the attraction between him and Vesper was immediate (they didn't like each other initially, but there was a clear attraction), which I don't think is the case with Q in that scene. But I can definitely see an argument to be made about it, and one thing that boggles me the most about Skyfall fandom is that people haven't run with this idea and used it to say Bond/Q would totally happen. Instead, they bash Vesper and call her names and claim Bond never actually loved her. Um, counter-productive to your

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[anonymous]

I can see where you're coming from, nonnie, because these are issues I struggle with as a 00Q shipper. Most of fandom is in it for the cute long-term relationship, but I actually do have a hard time conceptualizing that, and when I write it it's either a one-shot or only tentatively happy (at best) at the end. I prefer them as a fast, passionate, but ultimately shortlived affair, usually ended by death; I don't know that they have what it takes to make it to a longterm relationship (though the image of it happening is sweet and appealing, if they could ever get past the huge issues that would prevent it

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[anonymous]

I don't think they're cut out for a long-term relationship at all. But that doesn't mean I can't ship it or read fic about them, because there's other way to write a ship than long-term HEA, like you say. Bond/Q about angry sex, or sex just to relieve their tension, or even Bond/Q that happens more as a complicated on-again, off-again thing, I would find all of those things hot and/or interesting. (Which is why I go look at the ship tag in the first place, I'm not just looking up ships I hate to bash it.)

I actually don't get why people write the fic they do. Except I come back to that same thing, Ben Whishaw is pretty and people want to write fic about him being loved and wanted by hot men and getting to live happy ever after, no need for him to change or make compromises or have to deal with complicated, difficult people or decisions. Which, eh, people can write whatever wish-fulfillment they like, but it's uninteresting and it's certainly OOC.

and heaven forbid I talk about how much I like Vesper; you'd think she'd killed Bond's

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[anonymous]

...now I really want very badly to nudge you in the direction of my AO3 profile, but I've been recced here before and don't want anyone to think I'm a self-reccer. Just know that there is fic out there in which Q does deal with the consequences of his claims in that first scene, as well as fic out there with unhappy Q not getting what he wants, fic in which Bond and Q deal with the side effects of their jobs, and fic where Bond's behavior with women is a major obstacle in any relationship they may be able to form. Most of it's filthy porn, but when I do relationships, it's rarely uniformly happy. And now that I've probably outed myself