No one is to throw anything until I blow this whistle!!!!! Even if they do say Jehova... AHHHH.grayswanFebruary 3 2004, 09:43:28 UTC
Yar I've read the bible.... well most of it. Like you and Alex said it does get pretty fucking dry towards the end. Personally I don't think it's any accident that the bible is so vague and open to interpretation. The bible is a tool and an ingenious one at that. It's believed to have been authored around 300AD and it is copied verbatim from earlier texts of the day and written in a way to be perfectly malleable to any situation or reverse meaning. Because any tool that is static would quickly exhaust its usefullness and people will always find loopholes in any rule. Therefor it would have to be dynamic in nature. Religious manuscripts follow two main themes in guiding their readers, hope and fear. The perfect form of control leaves people thinking they are in control of themselves. What's really fascinating is looking at the stories that didn't make it into the bible. Like a ton of shit about Lilith and other stories about angels and seraphs that just happen to almost equal the number of planets and moons around each planet in our system. Freaky shit man.
Now Rasputin was beloved by the Queen because he was the only person that could soothe her son from his disease (I forget what was actually wrong with him). Just about everyone else knew or thought he was a charlatan. I love Rasputin and I also love the beer named after him. The Discovery channel has an awesome two hour Rasputin special they show once in a while.
Curious... Are you sure you can use 'Wrath' as a verb other than 'Wrathen' or 'Enwrathen'. Also Wrath generally means 'anger' or 'to anger' not the destruction that that anger produces. I mean I suppose you could claim artistic license in this instance but don't you think smite, smited or smote would be more accurate. Just curious what you think on that one.
If I were forced to pick a religion I would have little problem accepting buddhism. It's one of very few religions that isn't a pyramid scam or so easily manipulated by politics. You can live next door to and be friends with a buddhist for 20 years and never know it if you didn't bring up the question of religion. You couldn't live next to a jehova's witness or mormon or devout catholic for more than a week without someone trying to convert you or make you feel like shit for the way you live. I realize there is a small percentage of christians that don't wear their religion on their sleeve but they are in the vast minority from my experience.
I believe a person can learn from any religion but never should a person accept anything as "truth". Morality is flimsy. The concept of justice is near sighted. Everything has duality or a yin and yang if you will. Trying to glean absolutes from the bible is an exercise in futility.
Re: No one is to throw anything until I blow this whistle!!!!! Even if they do say Jehova... AHHHH.mcgarnickleFebruary 4 2004, 05:26:41 UTC
The Bible was not authored around 300AD. The Old Testament was around long before Christ's appearence on earth, and I'm sure you know that he appeared well before 300AD. Also, the bible was written by many people, over many years. Although, the beginings of the current published form did probably originate around that period of time.
Re: No one is to throw anything until I blow this whistle!!!!! Even if they do say Jehova... AHHHH.grayswanFebruary 5 2004, 00:29:04 UTC
Dude you contradict yourself if you read what I wrote. When I say 'bible' I'm refering, of course, to the current compendium. I already stated that it was compiled from preexisting texts. And yes the current published form has been found to historically originate from around 300AD. Yes the old testament/s was/were around well before Christ. Thank you for first disagreeing with me then agreeing with me.... I guess. What did you think that I thought AD meant "After Death"?
Actually, interesting sidenote. There was a supernova in the area of the sky around which the three wisemen could have followed to the christ child... of course it would have been in the sky 200 to 300 years before it is thought that christ was born, so that kinda throws the whole dating system off anyway.
The Hills Have EyesevoldickFebruary 5 2004, 06:56:10 UTC
Pay no mind to Shaw. His clan is content to stay up on their hill and have just mastered "lernin" or as we more commonly call it, the written word. To prove my point: Mike Shaw admits to liking the movie XXX, yes, the one with Vin Diesel.
Crucifictions a doddleevoldickFebruary 5 2004, 06:44:34 UTC
"Righty oh. Jolly eh. Bloody yanks and the bastard abortion they substitute for english."
Forgive me, kind sir, for I have taken grievous liberties with the Kings Tongue. I was, in fact, attempting a bit of light hearted mirth at the expense of proper tense and grammar. If it pleases you, I was meaning for the verb "wrathing" to be the act of executing the Wrath of God. Used in another sentence: Have you seen The Lord, Our God? He is out Wrathing the good folk of Sodom and it's unfortunate neighbor, Gomorrah. You are correct, however. Some tense of "Smite" would have been the proper word to use. The English language is complex enough without me creating more words for us to confuse, am I right?
About Rasputin, I've been a fan of his ever since I saw a movie about him and he was played by Tom Baker. It was those crazy eyes. The Queen's son had some sort of blood disease, and he was feeding him jelly-babies or something.
BLOODY FAVOURITISM!!!!grayswanFebruary 5 2004, 13:46:34 UTC
"what you mean. I already say you he dade"
I figured you were making good engrish... but had to be sure.
I particularly liked "Butt-rape". I would have used something like "anal-marauding" but yours definitely gets the kindergarten shock value which beats anything I could pull out of my ass..... figuratively speaking.
Tom Baker had other roles that made it to stateside TV?!?!?!?!?! I must partake.
Now Rasputin was beloved by the Queen because he was the only person that could soothe her son from his disease (I forget what was actually wrong with him). Just about everyone else knew or thought he was a charlatan. I love Rasputin and I also love the beer named after him. The Discovery channel has an awesome two hour Rasputin special they show once in a while.
Curious... Are you sure you can use 'Wrath' as a verb other than 'Wrathen' or 'Enwrathen'. Also Wrath generally means 'anger' or 'to anger' not the destruction that that anger produces. I mean I suppose you could claim artistic license in this instance but don't you think smite, smited or smote would be more accurate. Just curious what you think on that one.
If I were forced to pick a religion I would have little problem accepting buddhism. It's one of very few religions that isn't a pyramid scam or so easily manipulated by politics. You can live next door to and be friends with a buddhist for 20 years and never know it if you didn't bring up the question of religion. You couldn't live next to a jehova's witness or mormon or devout catholic for more than a week without someone trying to convert you or make you feel like shit for the way you live. I realize there is a small percentage of christians that don't wear their religion on their sleeve but they are in the vast minority from my experience.
I believe a person can learn from any religion but never should a person accept anything as "truth". Morality is flimsy. The concept of justice is near sighted. Everything has duality or a yin and yang if you will. Trying to glean absolutes from the bible is an exercise in futility.
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sometimes i wear my WWII hat, as well.
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Actually, interesting sidenote. There was a supernova in the area of the sky around which the three wisemen could have followed to the christ child... of course it would have been in the sky 200 to 300 years before it is thought that christ was born, so that kinda throws the whole dating system off anyway.
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Forgive me, kind sir, for I have taken grievous liberties with the Kings Tongue. I was, in fact, attempting a bit of light hearted mirth at the expense of proper tense and grammar. If it pleases you, I was meaning for the verb "wrathing" to be the act of executing the Wrath of God. Used in another sentence: Have you seen The Lord, Our God? He is out Wrathing the good folk of Sodom and it's unfortunate neighbor, Gomorrah. You are correct, however. Some tense of "Smite" would have been the proper word to use. The English language is complex enough without me creating more words for us to confuse, am I right?
About Rasputin, I've been a fan of his ever since I saw a movie about him and he was played by Tom Baker. It was those crazy eyes. The Queen's son had some sort of blood disease, and he was feeding him jelly-babies or something.
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I figured you were making good engrish... but had to be sure.
I particularly liked "Butt-rape". I would have used something like "anal-marauding" but yours definitely gets the kindergarten shock value which beats anything I could pull out of my ass..... figuratively speaking.
Tom Baker had other roles that made it to stateside TV?!?!?!?!?! I must partake.
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