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Contextual studies show that the Koran and the Bible advocate violence against others in roughly equal portions. There is variation between the number of passages (the Bible "wins") or the number of passages on a per page basis (the Koran "wins").
But frankly, I simply don't care for that argument.
I am interested on what people do. Note the creed that they claim justifies their actions.
If a Christian can be peaceful, then all Christians can be peaceful. If a Muslim can be peaceful, all Muslims can be peaceful. For it is not Christianity or Islam that is violent, but the people who act in its name.
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But measuring passages advocating violence is not a particularly useful metric. There is a vast difference in, for example, how Jesus and Muhammad deal with rejection.
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I could go into detail, but the following will do.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html
One of these men is a leader who may be followed with a clear conscience.
I'd prefer not to follow anyone and have a clear conscience.
Or Iran with nukes in 2012. Catch the news headlines tonight?
Yes. "An Iranian-hosted international disarmament conference concluded Sunday with a demand that Israel join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to assure a nuclear weapons-free Middle East."
Sounds like a good idea to me.
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*shrug* Nevertheless they are examples where the NT advocates violence and cruelty.
Now, if you could find a good text like "Institutes of Religion" or "City of God" justifying war for the expansion of the Christian empire I'd be more impressed.
Which would be unfortunate and intellectually slippery , because you asked for references from the New Testament. That said, I find the advocacy of war in City of God not very different at between the Islamic distinction between dar al-Islam and dar al-harb.
When put into context do those verses become poetry, simile or metaphor which is not meant to be taken literally? No.Actually, the context is everything ( ... )
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Context is everything, which is why nothing on skeptics is worth repeating but that particular formulation is repeated throughout the Koran in a variety of contexts and it keeps coming back to the same point. Muslims are called to war against the unbeliever, in the Quran, in the Hadith and in the action of the ideal Muslim, Mohammed.
Your support of the destruction of Israel is intellectual. Iran's call for the destruction of Israel is somewhat more genocidal.
What I believe in is avoiding the slaughter of millions of people, I'm not a fan of Palestine or the Jewish treatment of Palestinians.
Actually I prefer Christianity when it doesn't suit me. Ghandi said it was a fine religion, just a pity about the Christians. A very accurate comment in my opinion.
None of the above changes the fact that Islam calls for war, deception, hatred and judgement making it a threat to the non Muslim world.
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And nor does the Qua'ran if you'd could actually care to trouble yourself to read it. The relevant section was already linked.
Iran's call for the destruction of Israel is somewhat more genocidal
"Iran" has made no such comment as "Iran" does not speak. Collective responsibility for individual acts seems to be a running theme in your thought.
And that aside, if you are talking about governments, Ahmadinejad has not called for genocide against Jews either. Even a modicum of research indicates this and I plead to you to engage in this.
None of the above changes the fact that Islam calls for war, deception, hatred and judgement making it a threat to the non Muslim world.
That is a statement that suggests religious bigotry and which, as been shown, has no basis in fact.
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So did you just forget the context of the oft-cited quote that you provided, or did you overlook it deliberately?
Perhaps your asserted knowledge of Islamic theology is a little less than you claim it is?
Collective responsibility for individual acts is often reality. Deal with it
Just because it's a reality imposed by those with especially low moral reasoning, doesn't make it right. Rather than Objectivist depravity, you have sinking towards Christian depravity. "Kill them all, God will know his own".
I would however, plead with you to do some research on Islam, starting with titles like "Why I am not a Muslim"...
Already read it. I largely agree with it.
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