Shatter into the Hope of Tomorrow

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[mara93]

Okay, I'm going to chime in here, lol...

Well that's probably the challenge a lot of us have in writing stories on this, right? Merlin was the hardest for me because I just couldn't believe that after he found out Lancelot was brought back from the dead, he didn't try to find out if maybe Gwen was enchanted too. I understand Arthur even though I think a lot of people didn't. He loves her. He was too close to take an objective view. But Merlin I thought could have done more. Writing this fic, I started to see more of his side, but it's still hard for me.

And Elyan, oh my gosh. I know he's a knight, but he could have done something. He could have at least shown more care for his sister. Yes, she supposedly betrayed the king, but Elyan became a knight because of her.

Then Gwaine, with the relationship he shared with Gwen in season three, I just thought it was a big disservice to him to have him not show much of anything about this. I hope his character is more developed again season five like it was season three. Season four I just didn't think they did enough with him.

[a_g_doren]

Once Merlin knew that Lancelot was a shade he should have done more. My roommate and I actually concluded that Merlin just shouldn't have been in the episode in the first place. Everything would have played out the way it did more or less and the time devoted to letting us see Merlin fail in this episode could have been devoted to the reaction of the knights without Arthur present.This episode just should have been Merlin-lite.

I have a pretty decent job and I got it because of my older sister. Once I pretended that it was myself and my older sister in the situation Elyan's behavior made a lot more sense to me. I still don't agree with his choice but I could understand his anger and frustration.

I hope everyone is more developed in S5. Seriously Merthur is not that interesting.

[mara93]

Wait, I'm looking back at your earlier comment. Which knights spoke up? I'm really curious.

Yeah, Merlin's place in the episode didn't help much, except at the end. I loved that scene of him watching her go. Everything was written on his face, but that's because Colin is just so good. It doesn't matter what he's given. He can make it work.

I would have loved to have seen the knights' reaction without Arthur around.

Ah, Elyan, I just can't excuse him, more than Merlin even. If we had one scene like with Merlin where he watched her emotionally at least, it would have made it better. But we didn't even get that. That's why here, I barely have him. I just didn't like how Elyan acted during all this. I wanted a show of emotion toward his sister, something.

She's queen now, so yeah season five needs to do a lot about that. I hope they do! And the knights. I enjoyed Percival mostly this season. I want more development for the others.

[a_g_doren]

Who speaks up for Gwen depends on which version. Usually it is either Gwaine or Merlin that speaks up or defies Arthur sentencing Gwen to burn at the stake or some such.

Usually Gwen and Lancelot are having an ongoing affair (that everyone knows about to some extent including Arthur). Agravaine and Mordred team up to bring the affair to light. Lancelot flees. Arthur reluctantly orders her burned at the stake and orders the knights on guard knowing that Lancelot and his brothers (not sure) will try to prevent the sentence being carried out. Gwaine refuses to even try and guard against Lancelot rescuing Gwen.

Unfortunately one of Gwaine's brother's is killed by Lancelot in the course of the rescue and then Gwaine pushes for war for revenge.

Elyan is so poorly used and underwritten on this show I just don't even consider what they write for him as having actually happened.He should have had some kind of scene like Merlin's and the character was robbed IMHO. I have head cannon for Elyan that I like much better.

Season 5 had better or I'll be done watching this show. Can Merthur go any further except to actually become onscreen lovers? Since they are not going there can other characters and relationships develop please?

[mara93]

I know so little of the legend compared to a lot of you, still learning, so I love to hear about it. Thank you. I guess Gwaine was the right choice then. And I had no idea Agravaine even figured into it in legend. Interesting.

Yeah, for me Elyan is more like he was in my other story. That's season three Elyan anyway.

Merthur? You know this season there was so much of Arthur in bed, Merlin waking him up. Now that he's married, what are they going to do with that? I doubt unfortunately we're going to see much of AG in bed, innocent scenes of course, but I bet they're going to pass all that up now. It's not fair though because we had so many scenes of Merlin waking up a shirtless Arthur etc.

Still, I'm very curious at what's to come.