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Nov 02, 2004 01:00

At the eve of the first 2004 presidential debate, I decided that I wouldn't ride the emotional rollercoaster of this election year's last few weeks -- I decided to condition myself for a Bush victory. If Kerry actually won, great, but if he lost I wouldn't feel traumatized. I accepted that Bush and Cheney would stay in power, that civil liberties ( Read more... )

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The morning after... anselan November 3 2004, 03:50:34 UTC

We all have our things, our own personal talking points that make and break the unwritten but all to often spoken contracts the candidates make ( ... )

Re: The morning after... elno November 3 2004, 22:54:35 UTC

Stretching the truth is part and parcel of modern American politics. I can live with that. There's actually more truth to the draft issue than you think -- the stop-loss order means many active forces are no longer volunteer, and this will only spread. But this response isn't about the details. Public debate and the fourth estate can expose the political lies.

It's when debate is thrown out the window and fear turned into an instrument of power, that's when the line is crossed.

Re: The morning after... anselan November 4 2004, 04:07:13 UTC

Sorry I don't buy that the Republican's leveraged fear any more then the Dem's ( ... )

Re: The morning after... elno November 4 2004, 15:51:32 UTC

If you don't see a world of difference between "your Medicare premiums will rise" versus "the terrorists will probably attack us" then we'll just have to agree to disagree on that ( ... )

Re: The morning after... anselan November 4 2004, 17:21:43 UTC

Sure I see the difference between premium hikes and "You'll get blown up" - but all the fear boils down to 'You'll die' or 'You'll be so poor you'll die'. (The draft is a threat of death, losing medicare/social security is a threat of poorness/death) But yah, agree to disagree

And I think that the Leno show has shown us for years that a fair portion of our society is made up of blithering morons. I would say there's as many people who voted democratic who think that Bush is responsible for the lack of flu shots as people who actually believe some of things you stated. I really think those numbers are overly high.

I also know that there are people who voted on the other side of the ticket feel that those of us who voted for Kerry are just as dillusional. I'm talking about intelligent educated people as well.

I don't want to turn into a Republican apologist though. So I'll drop it from here.

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