DORKAGE: House 4x05 Mirror, Mirror

Oct 31, 2007 22:41

Oh MAN, I am SO GLAD I took the half-day off from work today, which means I could grab the latest House episode much earlier than I normally would. It's not even 11pm and I'm all ready with caps for the IMMENSE AMOUNT OF SQUEE-AGE THAT WILL ENSUE. I swear, if you're a House/Cuddy shipper? There's just so so so MUCH in this episode to chew over and ( Read more... )

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jukebox_grad October 31 2007, 18:44:36 UTC
The meat of it -- I was patiently reading along! I was going to post some caps with my commentary, but then realized I didn't really have the time and energy to spend on that, and I knew you'd have the best scenes.

Notice, she said "one of" her best features. She knows she's hot.

And you know I've been saying for a while now, I could kind of see a big reveal at some point that House and Cuddy have been carrying on for some time. A part of me would LOVE to see that, because it pretty much dictates that things won't change a huge amount. Then the pervy side of me wants to see the expected explosion (as much as can be shown on network TV, anyway).

House can pass for 14 (well, maybe 12; whenever I joke about myself being immature, I think 14, but edit to 12) because, at 6 years of age, he wouldn't have the mindset to make his adolescent sexual remarks. ;)

You heard continents, too! On one friend's review, she heard condiments. Condiments is funnier, I think, but it certainly sounded like continents. I rewound and it could kind of go either way. Not definitively enough, though.

I loved, loved, LOVED the "OMG THEY ARE SO HAVING SO MUCH SEX" scene. Cuddy puts her best face on, the wheels are turning in House's head before he even gets past her, she thinks she pulled it off but still looks somewhat doubtful annnnnd, yep, caught. I think she thought it was a long shot anyway.

The BC pill thing does open a lot of doors. Because, seriously, is there any indication that Cuddy's getting any from anyone? Everytime she has a date, House crashes. You think you're frustrated with trying to figure out 13, House? It's been THREE SEASONS for Cuddy! I could buy House knowing through his usual means that Cuddy's on the pill again -- but I don't think he'd casually throw out a joke about it (could be wishful thinking on my part, since you know how much we both want some acknowledgment from House on the whole fertility thing). And my immediate leap was -- they really are sleeping together, but Cuddy knows House isn't ready to devote any part of himself to a kid-- and I mean on the most basic level (of the donation sort). I think House's cynicism about the world and his own misery (just the right amount? Actually, House seemed pretty HAPPY in this ep) would leave him not wanting to bring an innocent kid into the world. While I think Cuddy sees more than enough in House that she would want to ask him for a donation, I don't think she'd risk any damage to their relationship by pressuring him. So, I guess all of that means... she could still want a kid, be schtuping House, and is on the pill out of respect to him. Oh and my theory about the LE pregnancy speculation -- Lisa's gone method, and any weight gain was because Cuddy's back on the pill! ;)

The last scene, third pic -- I think that's Lisa E. right there, and the rest are Cuddy. I'd have LOVED to see Cuddy own House and be chosen as the alpha, because I think it'd be so much fun for future remarks from Cuddy, Wilson, the ducklings, you name it. But I'm as okay with as I can be JUST FOR THE VICTORY DANCE! Most favorite ever.

And you pretty much offered all the caps I would've wanted to include in my commentary anyway!

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ellixian November 1 2007, 16:46:31 UTC
OMG, I LOVE when we fangirl H/C. Because, hee. There's so much to love! And everything you point out makes me love them more!! (BTW, your icon is ten thousand kinds of gorgeous, because, hello, TCA pics? PWNED MY SOUL when they were released.)

Good call on the 'one of'. Cuddy should definitely include her butt and legs as her best features too. Hell, throw it all in. She's that hot. ;)

I'm as torn as you are about whether I want the sneaky reveal (oh look, they've been schtupping since he turned up on her doorstep last season!) or the big explosion. I think I'd still prefer the latter, if we could get it - I want to see it happening (again) for the first time, and the circumstances that led up to it. For DEFINITE.

Okay. House can be 12. I still think he'd be an insanely smart 6-year-old though. The annoying kind who won't take no for an answer but whose questions you can't answer. ;)

OMG. It MUST BE CONDIMENTS. Because that's so much funnier! Now I have to go back and listen to that moment - AND IT IS CONDIMENTS, for sure! Hee! That makes it SO MUCH FUNNIER! I'm so editing it in my original post.

Can I just say how much I love fanwanking these two? Because I read somewhere an idea that makes me quite happy - I'd love to think that the first scene, when she tries to bluff him, is actually a fake-out. She wants him to THINK he's caught her stroking his ego. (Of course, he then freaks her out with the BC thing, but that's just House being House.) The real fake-out, however? Is the scene with the POTW. I'd love to think that Cuddy just totally let House win... Because that would mean Cuddy is the REAL alpha in the relationship, and that would just ROCK. ;)

*ahem* To regain some semblance of non-fanwanky seriousness - yes. Cuddy needs to get laid already, as LE herself has pointed out. (I LOVE LE.) It might be wishful thinking on our part re the BC, but I can't believe that not a single writer on the House team didn't realise that this would totally crack open the babyarc can of worms again. The follow-up comment to Foreman is what makes it so delicious though - there wasn't a reason for House to say that, since Foreman didn't hear his first conversation with Cuddy when he threatened to get her pregnant (basically). So he's musing aloud, thinking that if this goes on, he WILL swop her pills. And then, whoops, pregnant. And the reason for that? Regular sex. With who? The person who KNOWS she's back on the pill, dammit. Heh.

Has LE gained weight recently? I've heard the rumours too - got freaked out by one posted on the house_cuddy LJ which turned out to be total hearsay. She looks the same to me. As ravishingly gorgeous as someone who gets up at 4am to do two hours of yoga everyday would. ;)

Oooh, nice spot of LE in the final sequence of caps. Agreed - that is SO her. Victory dance is made of SO MUCH WIN, SERIOUSLY. I don't think I've stopped giggling about it since. We so rarely get to see Dorky!House, and when we do, it makes me inordinately inordinately happy.

Evidently. ;)

Glad you liked the caps, hon! Can't wait for your icons of this ep next! :)

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jukebox_grad November 1 2007, 20:31:19 UTC
Our back-and-forth fangirling has only gotten me MORE excited about House (and Huddy, of course, but House and Huddy are kind of synonymous for us, no?). I think you're the only person right now who's as into dissecting everything with this much scrutiny as I've been trying to do as of late. And yessss, the TCA pics were beautiful. The keyword for that one is "can't stand it" because I almost cannot!

I don't think there's any doubt, given the way Cuddy walks around the hospital, particularly when walking away from House, that Cuddy would also rank her ass pretty high on the hotness inventory.

I've been torn about sneaky versus hotness-on-screen, too. It would be a certain kind of fantastic to have it just revealed that they've been going at it all this time, and reassuring that little has changed (depending on when it all started, because if it was pre-s3, it only got HOTTER) in the House/Cuddy dynamic. But that also puts a bit more pressure on things, because you really get to see the beginning of the relationship unfold -- you join it midway, so it sort of hastens it. You know it can't be buttercups and sunshine for their relationship forever, so now you're halfway through it! And yes, I want to see the extra sparkly fireworks (in Cuddy's office, or the DDX Table of Love). It'd be hot regardless of what they do, but seeing it from the start offers more variety of hotness. Like awkward hotness.

I couldn't check the captions, but I decided to put stock in "condiments." It does make the joke significantly funnier (4/5 comedians agree).

Cuddy IS way beyond the stroking-his-ego level, so I could definitely buy that. I felt from her expression that she really didn't expect it to work at all. Cuddy can mindfuck House as well as well as she can/will fuckfuck him. Also, Cuddy's, "I'm the DEAN of Medicine" was kind of weak which could further support (wank) the alpha fake-out idea. Hm, interesting indeed. I think I need you to point out the most interesting threads/ideas so I know where to start! ;)

The birth control (which I apparently keep typing as BITCH control). I still don't quite have a lot of stock in the writers, because, how many writers/directors have they had over the years? HOWEVER... you know Lisa is hyper-aware enough that I really don't think she'd let it slip through the cracks without some assurance that there's a point (not without a fight at the very least, and the writers have taken her input to heart so far). I had serious doubts Foreman ACTUALLY said that, because I thought I was hearing what I wanted to hear. Hm, could Cuddy's look as House revealed his masterful retaliatory plan have been a response to a hint from him that he may be warming up to the idea, if they are indeed secretly together? That might be reading TOO much into it, but this is land of a thousand fanwankers.

There's been some photos of Lisa that have led to speculation, I think, mostly because of the style (which IS IN style right now) and also, the boobs are looking a little extra copious as of late. Could be a very modest weight gain and that's where she gains/loses, who knows. I just saw some pictures of her from a few days ago, though, in a more fitted dress and she definitely didn't look like she had a tummy. I think it's just tough to tell with certain clothes.

I think LE snuck out a little with the, "Seriously!" too. And I loved it! This scene shall forever be epic to Huddy shippers near and far. And I can imagine that Hugh made each take unique, so you never quite knew what goofy move he'd use next!

I will absolutely have to try to make icons this weekend. I think there is a physical need.

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ellixian November 2 2007, 18:23:51 UTC
The mutual flailing is definitely something I've LOVING. It's great to find someone willing to talk House, Cuddy and House/Cuddy with me and who won't find me strange/insane/scary for being quite as invested in it as I am. Hey, everyone needs some form of escapism, right?! ;) I've been dissecting House by my lonesome for a while, so it's great to break out of my solitary funk and find likeminded souls happy to flail with me to our hearts' content!

Getting the reveal that they've been getting it on for a while would be satisfying insofar as it would prove that it COULD work, for the two of them, even though it's never going to be all sunshine and roses, as you point out. For dramatic purposes, they'd probably have to break up just to give House more angst (that seems to be the fundamental purpose of the show). But I'd still like some hot H/C sexage before that happens. I guess that's where the experience of having been a diehard Mulder/Scully fan (my first OTP) comes in - in a way, it REALLY bugged to be told after eight seasons that they'd started doing the nasty a while back but we were never SHOWN it... but also recognising that nothing could quite match up to the explosive first instance of schtupping that a million fans the world over have already imagined ad infinitum. It's a tough line to tread, I guess. But much as this episode lets us fanwank until our brain explode, I'm still holding out hope that they haven't done it, yet. I want to see it happen, dammit!

The fanwanking idea about Cuddy being the true alpha really does appeal to me the more I think about it - as you point out, and after rewatching, she really isn't bringing the fearsome at all. She's really smiley and sweet when announcing she's the Dean of Medicine, which doesn't really suggest a whole lot of power as compared to House's declaration that he's the guy who saved POTW's life. Btw, you should patent this line ftw: "Cuddy can mindfuck House as well as she can/will fuckfuck him." ROFL. LOVE.

You're right about being thankful that LE is around to ensure her character doesn't do anything she's not comfortable with. I really am glad that, ultimately, she is the alpha and omega when it comes to Huddy. Seriously, it's all thanks to her that you can legitimately mine the hell out of the H/C relationship when going back to older episodes, when H/C banter and interactions were less texty (as opposed to subtexty) than they were in Season 3. And I'm glad the writers have taken on board so many of the ideas she had for the H/C backstory. So yes, if anything, she will steer our ship right. Here's hoping, anyway! ;)

Dude, it would be just like LE/Cuddy to gain weight in the boobs area. As if she hadn't been hot enough to begin with! And she doesn't look different to me. Gorgeous as always. It'd be quite interesting if she really IS pregnant though, and that they're changing the show to account for that. Hmmm. Gives whole new dimension to that BC thing, huh? ;)

The VICTORY DANCE scene (always needs caps, that) is definitely going down in H/C history as one of our best scenes ever. Right along with "microbes can be sneaky" in Who's Your Daddy. Man, that scene kills me in every way possible. The hotness is just... GAH.

Yay for icons! GayForHerself!Cuddy icons, please!! ;)

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jukebox_grad November 3 2007, 19:54:58 UTC
Hm, investment? The other night I brought up the astronaut chick and absurdity of her dropping $50,000 as if that would cover all her medical expenses. My dad didn't hear the beginning and he says, "Who was this?" "Um.. it was on House." And I tried to fangirl a little with my mom, who watches the show sometimes. She was away during the week, so I felt it necessary to let her know that House and Cuddy MIGHT be sleeping together already. She didn't quite care as much as WE do, though. But we're doing awesome -- we're not JUST flailing. We're flailing with SUBSTANCE, as well. It also balances out all of the kshifasa;msadfsdh SEX! thoughts. ;)

They can find another way to reassure us that it can work without changing things dramatically. Obviously, Foreman would easily buy that House and Cuddy are already sleeping with each other, and I think in the past, Cameron has alluded to it as well. WE think House and Cuddy could maintain a relationship that lasts, but at the very least, they'll have to hit some bumps. Maybe ultimately, they'll still have H/C in mind, who knows (I'd like to think they could see it, rather than ending it with House being an eternal loner). And I hope our fanwanking has a certain legitimacy, and we're not just... making nothing into something. I REALLY hope we're on to something here!

I think I'm rather proud of my mindfuck/fuckfuck line. I'm so poetic! Okay, let's choose to believe that it was a masterful ego-stroking performance by Cuddy. I definitely like that idea, because Cuddy sort of wins one!

I don't think the writers could continue to overlook the sex that is Hugh/Lisa, in favor of other ships they might've had in mind longer. So, a thousand yays for LE's dedication to Cuddy and all things Huddy, too.

I don't really think she's pregnant -- now, anyway -- but there WERE a few pictures where you had to wonder. It would be fun if it pushed the H/C thing. Although I'm not sure where I stand on pregnant!Cuddy actually happening. They'd really have to handle it the right way.

Microbes can be sneaky. Thanks for reloading me up with the visual again! "I'm pretty sure you've got that." SEX. Seriously, a H/C free association game would be so boring, because I think all I'd throw out is, "SEX! HOT SEX! TABLE SEX! SEX SEX SEX!" *is deep*

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ellixian November 5 2007, 16:50:05 UTC
When all my life references become TV shows, I know it's time to start censoring myself. ;) There was a period of time when I was SO obsessed with the X-Files that literally everything reminded me of Mulder/Scully. It was NUTS. I had to censor myself around RL people ALL THE TIME. I haven't quite reached that level with H/C, though I suspect I'm getting there. All I need is a kiss and I'm a goner!

Now THAT'S what I need an icon of: "Flailing - with SUBSTANCE." LOL, us for the win!

Of course, we're agreed on the possibility of a H/C relationship working in the long term - heck, I think it's House (and Cuddy's) best chance to get with anyone, ever. Because they fit, and they work, and even if they drive each other mad (which they no doubt will), it's still going to be the best thing that's ever happened to them. Errr, schmoopy much? Pardon me - I'm in a bit of a fluffy mood these days. Escapism from work, I suspect. ;)

What I MEANT to say was, yes, I agree that I think House CAN wind up with someone. I'm really wondering how the show is going to end, though I hope it doesn't, for a long time - House back to where he was in Season 1, except he's gone through all this crap with other people, but he's still lonely? Awww, come on. Give him a Cuddy! ;)

Pregnant!Cuddy could definitely be a shark-jumping moment. I'm not particularly keen for a baby myself, much less the horror that might be a Huddy baby. Oh, in theory, the baby would be adorably kickass. But the show might fall apart. But is it too much to ask to have follow-up on the babyarc, darn it?!?!

H/C Free Association Game OF WIN!! ROFL. You're right. I find that my mind inevitably hits the gutter with these two. Like, after I saw the new promo? I immediately thought up a couple of replies to Cuddy from House - all of them dirty. I'm SUCH a perv. ;)

Can't wait for the new episode soon soon SOON!

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