and Lost starts the divided storylines/dropped plot points problem again.
It's the biggest problem with having such a large cast and character centric episodes. They are handling things much better than in the past. The Charlie thing bugs because it was such a big storyline last year and while they addressed the impact of his death on Hurley, I expected more than a sad glance from Desmond and Claire. Des, I can forgive because we’ve hardly seen him and when we did he was all distracted by the helicopter. But Claire had some quiet moments in this episode where they could have done something but instead had her acting all cutesy about Sawyer coming over to see Kate.
I'll have to watch it again and look for those Claire looks, because I didn't catch them the first time around.
I feel the first three episodes have been handling the problem very well, it felt very much more in balance like season one was, which I thought handled the large cast and multiple storylines very well. This episode was the first of this season so far when I could feel the strain of it all, of too many things splintering off in too many directions and leaving things untended that needed to be tended to. But that's just what happens, it can't be helped sometimes.
To me Claire seemed almost giddy about Sawyer's appearance at her house and purposely left the two "love birds" alone.
They are straining but is hasn't fallen apart yet. Things are moving forward nicely. Maybe they will drop the focus on team Locke next week to allow for the beach camp and wherever the hell Des and Sayid are to play out more evenly.
Hi, I just happened upon your journal and was interested to see what you thought about tonight's episode. I was all right with most of the episode, but I am still trying to figure out what exactly happened between Kate and Sawyer. It seemed almost out of character for Kate to be snuggling up to Sawyer like she was. And then out of nowhere, she becomes the Ice Queen again, which sets Sawyer off (and rightfully so). Is anyone else as sick of the love-triangle as I am?
but I am still trying to figure out what exactly happened between Kate and Sawyer.
You and me both. If I had to guess, I think it was a case of Kate being pissed about how insensitive he was about the baby and her already making up her mind to leave and needing an excuse. I think Sawyer's recent openness about how he feels must scare her. She is still drawn to him but it comes across as her using him when she cuts and runs like this.
I loathe the love triangle. I don't know anyone who enjoys it.
I like your explanation. I think you're right, she never intended to stay. But then why did she? I guess it is like you said, she is drawn to Sawyer, against her will. I could sympathize with her if she wasn't so awful to him. She deserved every bit of his outburst there and had no right to react the way she did. I don't understand why Sawyer allows her to treat him the way that she does. It is almost as if he sees it as a punishment. A way to absolve his past sins or something. But that look on his face when Kate walked to the door broke my heart
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Like you I was never in this for the love stories and was disappointed when the show spent so much time on the triangle in season 3. I was this close to quitting the show when I got pulled back in with Charlie and Desmond's storyline.
However, I do think they are back on track with the supernatural/conspiracy element. Each episode this season has introduced some interesting elements that remind me of season 1.
Sawyer so did not deserve to get slapped. I was glad he stood up for himself, sort of, but then his puppy dog eyes at the end shows how much she hurt him. I wonder if this is his last glance of Kate before she leaves.
Jack denying knowing Mars. That was the perfect example of how twisted their version of what happened is. That kind of shocked me, but I'm not sure why it did. After all, the *true* answer about Jack and Mars would have been "I killed him."
Charlie would be pleased to know toddler Aaron still has a giant head. Aww. How bittersweetly hilarious.
I guess going back to the island would be a serious parole violation. Indeed it would be. Which leads me to believe she definitely will be going back at some point.
I'm enjoying flash forward Jack more than on island Jack. You can see the struggle brewing inside of him about whatever compromises they made to get off. Obviously this spills over at some point. It will be interesting to discover what pushes him over the edge.
Which leads me to believe she definitely will be going back at some point.
I'm enjoying flash forward Jack much more, too. I'm really intrigued by the process each of the O6s are going/will go through to deal with how they got off/what lies they're still living now.
And maybe never leaving... She'd be in a hell of a lot more trouble if she left a second time, that's for sure.
Charlotte’s test seemed to imply Daniel has memory problems.
Okay, I thought she was testing him for psychic abilities there... Hmmmm.
* I guess going back to the island would be a serious parole violation.
And here I wasn't even thinking that that's why Kate was so eager to accept that condition of her probation.
Yes, not as good as last week but last week's was one of the all-time best, so I rather expected it to be a bit of a letdown. I'm still sorting this one out, as with all Kate eps. The way they handle her, and the triangle, needs a lot of rationalization for me to keep liking her, usually!
I think psychic powers is also a reasonable answer. Maybe they believe the island heightens these abilities.
I hadn't thought about her accepting the parole because it gave her another excuse, besides being responsible for Aaron, to not go back. Since she tends to be a person who always wants to go back for someone, something big must have happened to stop her this time.
Agreed on the general feeling of the episode. Though the fact that it was about Kate to begin with meant I was sure not going to like it a quarter of how I liked last week's.
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Jack denying knowing Mars. That was the perfect example of how twisted their version of what happened is. His apparent guilt over Aaron cemented this.And after he lies for her she even refuses him coffee? While he looks hot like that? I don't get her
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I would so have taken hot!perjurer!Jack out to coffee and more. Did she not even say thank you? It's seems both Kate and Jack are riding the guilt train
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I think I'd have asked him to skip the coffee and go straight to bed. *blushes* he's giving me those effects. Seriously, I agree on the guilt train. Though if it hits Kate, it happens later than with Jack.
Erm, exactly my thoughts. I seriously hope neither of them bites it.
NEXT WEEK! Yeah, since you're that spoiled, THAT'S IT! Yeah, it was Dan. And whatever happens, it's going to be Desmond. And Sayid, for most of the episode. This totally fills me with glee, much, much glee. I hope for everything that you hope, and about the clothes (though, save the blue shirt!) and well, it's Desmond episode! I mean, it's also the day after my term is over, no better timing!
Well, most of all enjoy your vacation! And you can bet that I'll be up at the crack of dawn that morning, I can't get a time difference not let me see the Des fix as soon as possible. Meanwhile, I'll be tuned to the transatlantic squeeing, but I think that if you hear some italian-accented squeeing, it's probably me. Well, transatlantic squeeage is a good way to pass time!
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Hee, yeah. Big time. Though I guess it'd be kinda hard to find her and bring her back, on the plus side.
I like how you do the highlights/concerns, that's a good way to do it.
Sayid and Des...mourning Charlie...and Lost starts the divided storylines/dropped plot points problem again.
The ABC promos were a lot of yelling and helicopter controls too. Not very helpful.
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It's the biggest problem with having such a large cast and character centric episodes. They are handling things much better than in the past. The Charlie thing bugs because it was such a big storyline last year and while they addressed the impact of his death on Hurley, I expected more than a sad glance from Desmond and Claire. Des, I can forgive because we’ve hardly seen him and when we did he was all distracted by the helicopter. But Claire had some quiet moments in this episode where they could have done something but instead had her acting all cutesy about Sawyer coming over to see Kate.
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I feel the first three episodes have been handling the problem very well, it felt very much more in balance like season one was, which I thought handled the large cast and multiple storylines very well. This episode was the first of this season so far when I could feel the strain of it all, of too many things splintering off in too many directions and leaving things untended that needed to be tended to. But that's just what happens, it can't be helped sometimes.
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They are straining but is hasn't fallen apart yet. Things are moving forward nicely. Maybe they will drop the focus on team Locke next week to allow for the beach camp and wherever the hell Des and Sayid are to play out more evenly.
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but I am still trying to figure out what exactly happened between Kate and Sawyer.
You and me both. If I had to guess, I think it was a case of Kate being pissed about how insensitive he was about the baby and her already making up her mind to leave and needing an excuse. I think Sawyer's recent openness about how he feels must scare her. She is still drawn to him but it comes across as her using him when she cuts and runs like this.
I loathe the love triangle. I don't know anyone who enjoys it.
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However, I do think they are back on track with the supernatural/conspiracy element. Each episode this season has introduced some interesting elements that remind me of season 1.
Sawyer so did not deserve to get slapped. I was glad he stood up for himself, sort of, but then his puppy dog eyes at the end shows how much she hurt him. I wonder if this is his last glance of Kate before she leaves.
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That kind of shocked me, but I'm not sure why it did. After all, the *true* answer about Jack and Mars would have been "I killed him."
Charlie would be pleased to know toddler Aaron still has a giant head.
Aww. How bittersweetly hilarious.
I guess going back to the island would be a serious parole violation.
Indeed it would be. Which leads me to believe she definitely will be going back at some point.
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Which leads me to believe she definitely will be going back at some point.
And maybe never leaving...
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And maybe never leaving...
She'd be in a hell of a lot more trouble if she left a second time, that's for sure.
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Okay, I thought she was testing him for psychic abilities there... Hmmmm.
* I guess going back to the island would be a serious parole violation.
And here I wasn't even thinking that that's why Kate was so eager to accept that condition of her probation.
Yes, not as good as last week but last week's was one of the all-time best, so I rather expected it to be a bit of a letdown. I'm still sorting this one out, as with all Kate eps. The way they handle her, and the triangle, needs a lot of rationalization for me to keep liking her, usually!
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I hadn't thought about her accepting the parole because it gave her another excuse, besides being responsible for Aaron, to not go back. Since she tends to be a person who always wants to go back for someone, something big must have happened to stop her this time.
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Highlights:
Jack denying knowing Mars. That was the perfect example of how twisted their version of what happened is. His apparent guilt over Aaron cemented this.And after he lies for her she even refuses him coffee? While he looks hot like that? I don't get her ( ... )
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Erm, exactly my thoughts. I seriously hope neither of them bites it.
NEXT WEEK! Yeah, since you're that spoiled, THAT'S IT! Yeah, it was Dan. And whatever happens, it's going to be Desmond. And Sayid, for most of the episode. This totally fills me with glee, much, much glee. I hope for everything that you hope, and about the clothes (though, save the blue shirt!) and well, it's Desmond episode! I mean, it's also the day after my term is over, no better timing!
Well, most of all enjoy your vacation! And you can bet that I'll be up at the crack of dawn that morning, I can't get a time difference not let me see the Des fix as soon as possible. Meanwhile, I'll be tuned to the transatlantic squeeing, but I think that if you hear some italian-accented squeeing, it's probably me. Well, transatlantic squeeage is a good way to pass time!
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