I shall ponder this meta. It should help me explain what happened to my parents. They have not seen enough to understand everything and I have seen too much to explain it coherently.
This meta is gorgeous and I can't even watch the images without feeling touched.
The episode per se isn't perfect. Moffat did his best in "The Day of the Doctor" and other episodes. I think that the biggest flaw is that everything happens so fast. Too many things and too many explanations into little time. We are supposed to go on for centuries with the story, but I can't feel it. Somehow we are stuck like Clara (And maybe that's what Moffat wanted us to feel from the beginning. I don't know.) But talking about emotional resolution this episode is perfect and the ending is the most perfect one for Eleventh. It really feels like he did a full circle. (Love the parallels with The Beast Below and The Girl in the Fireplace. Everything in your metas works SO MUCH.)
I'm grateful to the Moff and to Matt Smith. Eleventh is my favourite chapter of the New Who so far and, like Clara predicted, I cried my eyes out. Best Doctor so far, to me, and one of the most amazing television characters ever.
This meta is gorgeous and I can't even watch the images without feeling touched. ♥
The episode per se isn't perfect. Moffat did his best in "The Day of the Doctor" and other episodes. I think that the biggest flaw is that everything happens so fast. Too many things and too many explanations into little time. We are supposed to go on for centuries with the story, but I can't feel it. Somehow we are stuck like Clara Maybe he was hoping for another season to develop all this in, but then had to wrap it all up in one go.
But talking about emotional resolution this episode is perfect and the ending is the most perfect one for Eleventh. It really feels like he did a full circle. I love circles best of all!
(Love the parallels with The Beast Below and The Girl in the Fireplace. Everything in your metas works SO MUCH.) It's only a question of paying attention. It's all there already.
I'm grateful to the Moff and to Matt Smith. Eleventh is my favourite chapter of the New Who so far and, like Clara predicted, I cried my eyes out. Best
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ETA: I think reading your meta has driven home why this episode hasn't really drawn me in. Lovely, lovely, yes, *nods*, that's beautiful, etc., etc. . . . But barring a revelation or two (mostly about the Time Lords being behind the cracks), it is all tying up. There's very little that's unexpected, it's now long-familiar refrains rounded off and brought to completion. Which is good! That should happen. But at the same time it's like I'm shaking the screen violently going AND?!?!?!?!? AND?!?!?!?!
Between DotD and this and now eight months until the next season, I feel like we're in the longest narrative ellipsis ever.
I'm awful: I'm not even particularly cut up about Eleven going. It was time, he got a lovely good bye . . . WHAT DO YOU MEAN EIGHT MONTHS!??! *flops petulantly*
Proper comments in a bit; you did pick out quite a lot I hadn't really registered.
*puts soothing cold compresses on your brain* Thank you. *collapses*
But barring a revelation or two (mostly about the Time Lords being behind the cracks), it is all tying up. There's very little that's unexpected, it's now long-familiar refrains rounded off and brought to completion. Which is good! That should happen. But at the same time it's like I'm shaking the screen violently going AND?!?!?!?!? AND?!?!?!?! Heh. You'll have to pore over the filing pictures, the way we had to back in 2010...
Between DotD and this and now eight months until the next season, I feel like we're in the longest narrative ellipsis ever. We might get some minisodes? And just think - we might get all new mysteries!
I'm awful: I'm not even particularly cut up about Eleven going. It was time, he got a lovely good bye . . . WHAT DO YOU MEAN EIGHT MONTHS!??! *flops petulantly* The not-really-Confidential was what did me in.
Proper comments in a bit; you did pick out quite a lot I hadn't really registered.Looking forward
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*applauds*!!! gorgeous meta. poetic, like it's subject. ♥ That is what I was aiming for. If I'd had three more weeks, no work to go back to, and no family, I'd have gotten there properly.
something's bothering me about the knowledge of Gallifrey on the other side of the crack, though, and I wonder if you've had any Thoughts about it -- in the episode where the Master revives and is trying to bring the Timelords back through the energy gate, Ten knows the Timelords are still there, in the time bubble. He's not surprised by it. Why isn't he surprised by it? OK, I'll try to lay it out as clearly as possible (which is difficult, because... timey-wimey). The Council of the Time Lords (the ones led by Rassilon) are the ones planning to break out of the Time War and ascend. This takes place prior to the War Doctor's actions. (The generals - at the beginning of Day of the Doctor - mention how the council are all locked up in some terribly important meeting, and the top buy just shrugs it off, because Rassilon's plans have all failed.)
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Amazing work, as always! I really enjoyed the parallels and references to all the previous Moff-written episodes. He's weirdly like Murray Gold in that way: developing motifs that he keeps expanding and building upon; you can tell it's essentially the same music, but with all these wonderful variations.
I also enjoyed the way you delved into Tasha-Kovarian-River. I had the feeling that River herself was probably being groomed as Kovarian's successor until she went off the rails. If she'd done what she was originally intended to do, River would probably have risen immediately to very high ranking in the Church. Interesting stuff! I always saw Kovarian as the evil stepmother.
This was perfect grist for the new year, as the old is passing behind us and the new is still ahead. Thanks so much for sharing!
I really enjoyed the parallels and references to all the previous Moff-written episodes. He's weirdly like Murray Gold in that way: developing motifs that he keeps expanding and building upon; you can tell it's essentially the same music, but with all these wonderful variations. Ooooh yes. Yes that's it exactly! Thank you!
I also enjoyed the way you delved into Tasha-Kovarian-River. I had the feeling that River herself was probably being groomed as Kovarian's successor until she went off the rails. If she'd done what she was originally intended to do, River would probably have risen immediately to very high ranking in the Church. Mmmm, yes. Except River got away... I absolutely loved meeting Tasha Lem, and seeing how it all fitted together. And it's always the women in charge. Interesting.
Interesting stuff! I always saw Kovarian as the evil stepmother. River is the little girl with three mothers - a real one, a fairy godmother (the TARDIS) and the evil stepmother. ;)
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The episode per se isn't perfect. Moffat did his best in "The Day of the Doctor" and other episodes. I think that the biggest flaw is that everything happens so fast. Too many things and too many explanations into little time. We are supposed to go on for centuries with the story, but I can't feel it. Somehow we are stuck like Clara (And maybe that's what Moffat wanted us to feel from the beginning. I don't know.)
But talking about emotional resolution this episode is perfect and the ending is the most perfect one for Eleventh. It really feels like he did a full circle.
(Love the parallels with The Beast Below and The Girl in the Fireplace. Everything in your metas works SO MUCH.)
I'm grateful to the Moff and to Matt Smith. Eleventh is my favourite chapter of the New Who so far and, like Clara predicted, I cried my eyes out. Best Doctor so far, to me, and one of the most amazing television characters ever.
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The episode per se isn't perfect. Moffat did his best in "The Day of the Doctor" and other episodes. I think that the biggest flaw is that everything happens so fast. Too many things and too many explanations into little time. We are supposed to go on for centuries with the story, but I can't feel it. Somehow we are stuck like Clara
Maybe he was hoping for another season to develop all this in, but then had to wrap it all up in one go.
But talking about emotional resolution this episode is perfect and the ending is the most perfect one for Eleventh. It really feels like he did a full circle.
I love circles best of all!
(Love the parallels with The Beast Below and The Girl in the Fireplace. Everything in your metas works SO MUCH.)
It's only a question of paying attention. It's all there already.
I'm grateful to the Moff and to Matt Smith. Eleventh is my favourite chapter of the New Who so far and, like Clara predicted, I cried my eyes out. Best ( ... )
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*puts soothing cold compresses on your brain*
ETA: I think reading your meta has driven home why this episode hasn't really drawn me in. Lovely, lovely, yes, *nods*, that's beautiful, etc., etc. . . . But barring a revelation or two (mostly about the Time Lords being behind the cracks), it is all tying up. There's very little that's unexpected, it's now long-familiar refrains rounded off and brought to completion. Which is good! That should happen. But at the same time it's like I'm shaking the screen violently going AND?!?!?!?!? AND?!?!?!?!
Between DotD and this and now eight months until the next season, I feel like we're in the longest narrative ellipsis ever.
I'm awful: I'm not even particularly cut up about Eleven going. It was time, he got a lovely good bye . . . WHAT DO YOU MEAN EIGHT MONTHS!??! *flops petulantly*
Proper comments in a bit; you did pick out quite a lot I hadn't really registered.
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I'm not sure I do...
*puts soothing cold compresses on your brain*
Thank you. *collapses*
But barring a revelation or two (mostly about the Time Lords being behind the cracks), it is all tying up. There's very little that's unexpected, it's now long-familiar refrains rounded off and brought to completion. Which is good! That should happen. But at the same time it's like I'm shaking the screen violently going AND?!?!?!?!? AND?!?!?!?!
Heh. You'll have to pore over the filing pictures, the way we had to back in 2010...
Between DotD and this and now eight months until the next season, I feel like we're in the longest narrative ellipsis ever.
We might get some minisodes? And just think - we might get all new mysteries!
I'm awful: I'm not even particularly cut up about Eleven going. It was time, he got a lovely good bye . . . WHAT DO YOU MEAN EIGHT MONTHS!??! *flops petulantly*
The not-really-Confidential was what did me in.
Proper comments in a bit; you did pick out quite a lot I hadn't really registered.Looking forward ( ... )
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♥ That is what I was aiming for. If I'd had three more weeks, no work to go back to, and no family, I'd have gotten there properly.
something's bothering me about the knowledge of Gallifrey on the other side of the crack, though, and I wonder if you've had any Thoughts about it -- in the episode where the Master revives and is trying to bring the Timelords back through the energy gate, Ten knows the Timelords are still there, in the time bubble. He's not surprised by it. Why isn't he surprised by it?
OK, I'll try to lay it out as clearly as possible (which is difficult, because... timey-wimey). The Council of the Time Lords (the ones led by Rassilon) are the ones planning to break out of the Time War and ascend. This takes place prior to the War Doctor's actions. (The generals - at the beginning of Day of the Doctor - mention how the council are all locked up in some terribly important meeting, and the top buy just shrugs it off, because Rassilon's plans have all failed.) ( ... )
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I also enjoyed the way you delved into Tasha-Kovarian-River. I had the feeling that River herself was probably being groomed as Kovarian's successor until she went off the rails. If she'd done what she was originally intended to do, River would probably have risen immediately to very high ranking in the Church. Interesting stuff! I always saw Kovarian as the evil stepmother.
This was perfect grist for the new year, as the old is passing behind us and the new is still ahead. Thanks so much for sharing!
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Thank you! :)
I really enjoyed the parallels and references to all the previous Moff-written episodes. He's weirdly like Murray Gold in that way: developing motifs that he keeps expanding and building upon; you can tell it's essentially the same music, but with all these wonderful variations.
Ooooh yes. Yes that's it exactly! Thank you!
I also enjoyed the way you delved into Tasha-Kovarian-River. I had the feeling that River herself was probably being groomed as Kovarian's successor until she went off the rails. If she'd done what she was originally intended to do, River would probably have risen immediately to very high ranking in the Church.
Mmmm, yes. Except River got away... I absolutely loved meeting Tasha Lem, and seeing how it all fitted together. And it's always the women in charge. Interesting.
Interesting stuff! I always saw Kovarian as the evil stepmother.
River is the little girl with three mothers - a real one, a fairy godmother (the TARDIS) and the evil stepmother. ;)
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