Twice Upon a Time

[elisi]

I realise it's been more than a month, and this is... Well, it is what it is. It was a lovely, lovely episode, but rounding up the end of an era is hard. So this isn't that, it's just a heap of scattered thoughts strung together. I will also post a take that is all poetry, but this one is probably better for talking about. :)

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[eaweek]

Excellent, as always!

[elisi]

Aw, thank you!

And here we go

[anonymous]

(Truly I say to you: no rush. Really.)

1). On the subject of the 1st Doctor and the !controversy!

Well, personally, I wouldn’t mind if they omitted it, but it’s cool. So. But a few things:

Wrt One then he may just be speaking of humans more generally, it's unlikely that he'd ever think of Time Ladies in such terms (higher species and all that).
If one is offended, I agree that it is perfectly possible to read him not as sexist, but as “speciesist” let’s say. And yes, the Doctor totally used to be that. As in, I Am An Awesome Genius Time Lord, All Puny Humans Should Do As I Say, Allow Me To Gently Bully And Patronise You.

Or, The First Doctor is acting like someone with the Values Dissonance of the early 20th century because he's *with* someone of the early 20th century. The 1st Doctor assimilates, blends in accordingly. I basically read him as a teenager who is trying to be edgy and hip and fit in with the cool kids.

Although…
My thoughts are that the point of the attitude may have been a little more meta...Yes, my personal

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[anonymous]

3). Random Observations:

Sidebar: The IMP of the Pandorica??I think I died. Like - THE IMP, TREMBLE ALL YOU PEOPLES! It's accurate though, Eleven is impish. <3
In which you almost made me die laughing. I just imagined a tiny, adorable Eleven jumping about while shouting that.
(Although, every time they pull the Oncoming Storm card, I am just begging for a “Ka Faraq Gatri”, a “Karshtakavaar”, come on.)

Please . . . just see me.
Oh for the love of God. How am I supposed to ignore this?
In case you’re interested, the aforementioned inspiration that ambushed me basically was Vision and Seeing in the Twelfth Era (in Short Fic Form). I connected EVERYTHING, it was quite satisfying.
By the title of Just See Me in my deviant gallery. Yeah, the originality is strong with this one, I know.

Now, I think he got it wrong. The message wasn’t that he could do *anything*, that he should save someone and to hell with the consequences.
Just save someone, because there is no such thing as unimportant. I think it was also a hint that he should

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[anonymous]

5). On Heaven Sent, metaphors, regeneration, and the meaning of THIS regeneration.

Moffat does away with the big drama, and just tells the story of a man (two men, no three men) scared of dying and change. Oh boy. The things I do for you, DW

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[anonymous]

--Because even with my theory about what he believed about the Hybrid (“Um… I haven’t decided yet? I’m not sure? Like, I did fuck up spectacularly with Ashildr but eh. Also, could be me even though I’m not half anything, I don’t really qualify, but the Matrix decided to be very symbolic because I like humans. And then you throw River into the mix, or other hybrids for that matter, but try explaining *that* to the Time Lords… Most importantly: I REALLY DON’T CARE RIGHT NOW. I’m just trying to convince you that I know to try and save Clara!”), he has no reason to trust his captors -after they planned such a conspiracy to get him nonetheless, that they won’t just kill him regardless, even if he does confess.
--Because in the past, the Doctor has demonstrated that he’d really rather not to, but he *is* willing to give his life if he considers a secret important enough. And here, who knows who is asking and what they could do with the information, with any true answer he could give, if they are desperate and dangerous enough? The Time