AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK ABOUT WHITEWASHING ARTEMIS CROCK

[dudski]

ETA 5/21/14: HI, JOSH. IS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO CHECK IN ON THIS POST FROM TIME TO TIME? BECAUSE YOU DO IT KIND OF A LOT. YOU DO YOU, I GUESS, BUT IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD TO KEEP COMING BACK AROUND TEN MONTHS AFTER I BLOCKED YOU. MAYBE LET IT GO.

Comments

[dudski]

When Artemis Crock first appeared in the series, the thought of her being half asian didn't cross our minds.

Sure: The assumption (which is problematic in and of itself and symptomatic of a culture that presents whiteness as the default) upon approaching the series without any outside information is going to be that Artemis is white. I came to the series assuming she was white. But I don't see how that's relevant to my argument, which is based entirely on how blindingly stupid and offensive it is to assert that it's okay to decide Artemis looks white when there is no reason to think so if you've actually watched the series.

Hell it didn't even cross Ollie's mind, when trying to pass her off as his niece just because of their blonde hair....Ollie knows she's half Vietnamese, though, because at that point, a) he's met her mother, who is Vietnamese, and b) HE HAS SEEN ARTEMIS, who actually looks like she's half Vietnamese. If he were Lawrence's brother, Artemis would really be his niece, and she would still look half Vietnamese. Nobody

[dudski]

I thought you were implying that people should automatically get that Artemis is of asian descent just by looking at her?

Jesus Christ, don't bother commenting if you're just going to pull bullshit like this. Literally the first thing I said was that people are going to assume she's white and that I came to the show assuming she was white. This default assumption of whiteness is shitty for a lot of reasons, but I've already openly conceded that it's how people are likely to approach the character, so kindly stop making up shit that I'm "implying

[dudski]

I just think it's more important to convince us, than it is to live in a world of absolute's and say "I want a fancast of Artemis as Asian and blonde, or nothing."Convince you of what? Artemis has darker skin than all of the show's white characters. Artemis has a Vietnamese mother. Other than her hair color, Artemis looks nothing like her father. Other than their different hair colors, Artemis and Jade look VERY SIMILAR, and nobody would ever even think of saying they need to be CONVINCED that Jade's not white. It is not on the show to fix the cultural view of white as default, or to work around it. The fact that any of this is even perceived as up for debate is the whole problem. People are beyond willing to erase Artemis's ethnicity because people are the worst. Nobody is casting a blonde white dude for Kaldur because it's ~SO IMPORTANT~ to get the hair right. Nobody is casting an Indian dude as Wally and saying it's because they have the same personality. Nobody is confused about the fact that Mary West, Tula, and Aquaman were

[torigates]

You need to cut this racist shit out, ffs.

[coldbam]

I'd just like to add that i really don't think people need to be "convince" characters aren't white????? Like, race just is, its not something that should have to be convinced