Knitting and herbivorous living

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About 2 months late, but I finally finished the punk scarf I was knitting for my mom. I got word that it safely reached her, so I figure it's safe to post now.

Comments

[bitchy_vegan]

Ha. You know you can always hit me up for advice, etc. As far as the old leather shoes go, I kept a lot of what I had at the time I went vegan (oh so long ago). For my part, I consider them sort of "grandfathered" in. You aren't harming any more animals by keeping them, so it's really only a matter of if you care what others think, or if it truly bothers you. I tossed my stuff after I had amassed enough vegan footwear to replace it

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I will totally be hitting you up for advice. I picked up a copy of Vegan With A Vengeance by Isa Chandra Moskowitz and so far the recipes are really good (she does The Post-Punk Kitchen show - I think they've got a website). But I'd love to have some of Brian's concoctions on file - you guys always made killer stuff in the kitchen.

Yeah, that's pretty much the conclusion I've come to regarding the wool sweaters, suit pants and leather shoes - I'll wear them until they're worn out and replace them with vegan-friendly gear. The shoe link is great, as I've been looking for black dress shoes with little success so far.

Millenium is indeed in SF! I've heard great things, but that may be a special-occasion splurge. I may check out that cookbook though...once I'm in an apt with a real kitchen.

Excellent about the Tempo stuff. I'm sure it will feel good to have that done with. I'm hoping to be back in August so I can make the wedding and deal with the remainder of my stuff cluttering up my parents' basements. :D

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Keen! ;D

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I just picked up this one and like it a lot: Vegan with a Vengeance. It sounds much more extreme than it is - very tasty down-home recipes for things like hearty vegetable soups and potato knishes, with good advice on making the most of non-meat protein devices. On the vegetarian side, Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone is a good comprehensive guide

[d_c_m]

Cool and enjoy!! A lot of the places in the Union now proudly sell Vegan food and prove it to you also. :) It is neat. Plus I really liked Carolena's Little Vegan site. I thought it was lovely.

Enjoy!!!

[dreadful_red]

Thanks! That's cool there's vegan eating on campus outside of Collins.

[d_c_m]

Yes! It is very cool! A lot of places in the IMU post that they have vegan food - and even explain why the food is vegan. It is cool. :)

Be well!

[mayara13]

Part of me wonders though - what is the moral obligation to be an example of your principles? Because it's hard to say you're vegan and walk around in a wool sweater, even if you know how it was made and that it meets ethical standards, and not seem to be endorsing animal products. I just wonder where to draw the line - like, is it ok to recycle wool and silk that's already in the thrift shop?The way I see it, the answer to the following question (bluntly put, but gets to the point) will help you in finding your answer: are you doing all of this so as not to contribute to industries that you feel ethically opposed to, or are you doing it to be a holier-than-thou pompous ass? While you may not actually be being the latter, it is easy to be perceived as such, which would be counter-effective; for example, I have wanted for years to commute by bike (or foot, preferably, when possible), but the truth of the matter is that I see more bicyclists that make me feel like driving a big-ass SUV across country for no reason other than to be not

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On the specific question, the reason I ask is because I am big into the idea of reusing things, but you could make the case that by wearing wool or silk you're helping fuel the desire for those materials, which is most easily met by industries whose practices I don't agree with. So that's why I wonder if it's better to drop animal products entirely, because under the logic of industrial production, it's too easy to start exploiting animals to keep up quota. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with places like Sheep Street - the animals seem happy and well-cared for and it's a nice place to be. I also don't see anything ethically problematic with dairy from old-style family farms where the animals get to roam and have lives without being confined and driven to overproduce. I even don't see anything wrong with hunting animals for food and using the products from that, as you only take what you need and again, the animal has a life before it dies and the death is relatively quick and painless compared to what factory farmed animals

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(and part 2, as I exceeded character quota

[mayara13]

First, no, you didn't come across as the holier-than-thou type; a couple of your comments about the questions you're asking yourself (understandable questions given the changes you're making and thinking of making etc) reminded me of multiple instances where people I somewhat agree with make me want to rebel against them, and I just wanted to make sure you thought of that as part of the process. I didn't have the impression that you would be that way, and actually felt you would be opposed to that sort of behavior, and just wanted to warn you to keep that potential in mind.

And when I do get off my lazy ass and do the biking thing, you can be sure I'll be one of the ones who realizes they have to follow the rules too.