There is a big identity movement going on about how aweful it is to have an account on Myspace and probably similarly-- Livejournal, but I dont see any problem with it
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You are real,just a shadow thoughdionysus_666January 26 2006, 19:31:28 UTC
The origanal was lengthy poetry....library computer crashed. The world is deprived.
My strongest belief is that what we believe is most real is just a shadow, an inexact replica of existance more basic, fundamental and real.
The world as we understand it and have to is a human world, when you pick up a rock you give it attributes and examine it from a perspective you cannot be detached from. Without a consiousness looking at the rock it would in itself be only extention and darkness in space. The light shed by sun and consciousness in other words ..what is outside and has nothing to do with the rock in-itself that most defines it. In the end we are not left with things you would hold in your hand "a rock"... you have the model of a rock you built and put in the place of that mysterious object. Ever hear of the Heisenberg principle.....the obsevation of something changes the state of what you are examining, tools become a part of 'forming' our conception of what lies underneath. Leaving the in-itself in the dark. So we have this real existance and a human one which we substatute for a more understandable existance we can relate to.
Why does man not see the world...he is himself standing in the way. An old friend used to tell me a finger points at the moon but we see only the finger. These asphorisms illistrate my point well.
Re: You are real,just a shadow thoughdionysus_666January 27 2006, 04:49:45 UTC
I wish i could have read the poetry.I love writing poetry,though i do not always care to read it,unless the person is someone i know.I love to understand peoples feelings. You are so smart talking i can hardly make sense of it.I am not the smartest,i feel i am smarter in other ways,i also think some people are made with brains,and others use their energy for things that are important to them.I think i am the 2nd. I dislike the world alot,i think their is more ignorance than intelligence.I would like to see a world where more people care about their neighbors and family,and less of all the drama people create now days. I wish i had fancy ways of sounding smart so i could reply to you with something special,but i do not have anything fancy to say.Its like i have alot of knowledge its just kinda inside and hard to say,i guess thats just how i am,i keep everything inside.
Dreaded wishing~ its grey where the boundaries blur, never had a sound to the voice, i felt it their,amongst the void, views became opinions,discussions became verbal nonsense, there is a lacking in my life, shadows move,wish i moved with them, tiresome,and neglectful of this, worlds were not meant to collide, i am simple,and have no good reply.
Re: You are real,just a shadow thoughdionysus_666February 2 2006, 19:30:43 UTC
For someone that doestnt have anything to say, that is a very beautiful poem...it has a lot of strong themes.
I am smart talking, and I like to think Im smart too. Though a smart talker sometimes fools himself into that.
As for Drama, people are doing a great job of recreating the world they find in their television sets. People love the world the way it is..its so entertaining and moving when it is ugly and filled with strif....shootings fill them with enlivening worry, and trust in their protecter...an ever bigger stronger government. The way things are is just right for some people, and they do a good job of maintaining it.
My strongest belief is that what we believe is most real is just a shadow, an inexact replica of existance more basic, fundamental and real.
The world as we understand it and have to is a human world, when you pick up a rock you give it attributes and examine it from a perspective you cannot be detached from. Without a consiousness looking at the rock it would in itself be only extention and darkness in space. The light shed by sun and consciousness in other words ..what is outside and has nothing to do with the rock in-itself that most defines it. In the end we are not left with things you would hold in your hand "a rock"... you have the model of a rock you built and put in the place of that mysterious object. Ever hear of the Heisenberg principle.....the obsevation of something changes the state of what you are examining, tools become a part of 'forming' our conception of what lies underneath. Leaving the in-itself in the dark. So we have this real existance and a human one which we substatute for a more understandable existance we can relate to.
Why does man not see the world...he is himself standing in the way. An old friend used to tell me a finger points at the moon but we see only the finger. These asphorisms illistrate my point well.
I wish the computer hadnt crashed!!!
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You are so smart talking i can hardly make sense of it.I am not the smartest,i feel i am smarter in other ways,i also think some people are made with brains,and others use their energy for things that are important to them.I think i am the 2nd.
I dislike the world alot,i think their is more ignorance than intelligence.I would like to see a world where more people care about their neighbors and family,and less of all the drama people create now days.
I wish i had fancy ways of sounding smart so i could reply to you with something special,but i do not have anything fancy to say.Its like i have alot of knowledge its just kinda inside and hard to say,i guess thats just how i am,i keep everything inside.
Dreaded wishing~
its grey where the boundaries blur,
never had a sound to the voice,
i felt it their,amongst the void,
views became opinions,discussions became verbal nonsense,
there is a lacking in my life,
shadows move,wish i moved with them,
tiresome,and neglectful of this,
worlds were not meant to collide,
i am simple,and have no good reply.
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I am smart talking, and I like to think Im smart too. Though a smart talker sometimes fools himself into that.
As for Drama, people are doing a great job of recreating the world they find in their television sets. People love the world the way it is..its so entertaining and moving when it is ugly and filled with strif....shootings fill them with enlivening worry, and trust in their protecter...an ever bigger stronger government.
The way things are is just right for some people, and they do a good job of maintaining it.
Keeping everything on the inside keeps it safe.
Jeff
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