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Yes. Log from last night.
So, apparently Hastur's over his little identity crisis. In spades.
[20:21] * Hastur has joined #desperatefans
[20:21] Michael> Please. Not now, of course, but sometime... I'm sure He'll understand...
[20:21] Hastur> *flame in yay*
[20:22] Metatron> I... I'll think about it. *smiles weakly at Hastur* Hello.
[20:22] Hastur> Angel.
[20:24] Metatron> *sighs* You... you don't think He'll be angry?
[20:24] Michael> I... others have Doubted...
[20:25] Metatron> ...And... what happened to them?
[20:25] Michael> *faint smile* They aren't all Fallen. *may or may not be referring to himself*
[20:26] Metatron> Angels... who don't want to be in Heaven... *takes a breath* I just don't know anymore, that's all.
[20:27] Hastur> *haaappens to overhear* ... Right. Because *some* angels are *favored*, and can do whatever they damn well want and not deal with consequences.
[20:27] Michael> *hugs him tightly, and gives Hastur a mild glare over Meta's shoulder*
[20:27] Hastur> *looks back blandly*
[20:28] Metatron> *...hugclings* I... don't know if I'm -favoured-.
[20:28] Michael> *will not go Angel of Wrath on him, will NOT go Angel of Wrath on him* Yes, of course. All of us, favored. As Lucifer was.
[20:29] Metatron> ...as Lucifer was. *flinches*
[20:29] Hastur> *smirks a little* I wasn't talking about *you*, Clancy.
[20:29] Metatron> *eyes widen* Do... do you think I'll Fall, Hastur?
[20:29] Hastur> I'll put a room on hold for you.
[20:30] Gabriel> [....nice, Hastur.]
[20:30] Hastur> Right down the hall from the brimstone mines. Sound good?
[20:30] Gabriel> [You win at comforting.]
[20:30] Michael> *glares at Hastur, and yes, it's an Angel of Wrath glare* Get out, demon.
[20:30] Metatron> ...
[20:30] Metatron> No, Michael, leave him. *sighs*
[20:30] Hastur> Yes, Mic-ah-ellllll. I'm his *frieeend*.
[20:30] Michael> I doubt that.
[20:31] Metatron> *absently, tiredly* Hastur, shut up. But honestly, don't hurt him, Michael.
[20:31] Hastur> No, I really am!
[20:31] Hastur> Clancy, am I your friend?
[20:31] Metatron> Yes. You don't think you are, but you are.
[20:31] Angua> *is watching angel/demonness in amusion*
[20:31] Hastur> See? The poor dolt's going through enough, Mike-o. Don't get all Wrath Of God on his *friends*.,
[20:32] Michael> *glares at Hastur* Fine.
[20:32] Michael> *and heads outside, wtf*
[20:32] Hastur> *grins* Charmed.
[20:32] * Michael has left #desperatefans
[20:32] Metatron> ...
[20:33] Hastur> What do you need with Heaven anyway, Clancy?
[20:33] Gabriel> [...What the DENMARK, Hastur. XDDD]
[20:33] Metatron> *...blinks* What do I -need- with Heaven?
[20:33] Hastur> Right! What has God ever given you but a list of busywork and a guilt complex you'll never get over?
[20:35] Metatron> *sits down crosslegged on the floor* ...I... don't know.
[20:35] Hastur> You know why you're doubting? Because He's *wrong*.
[20:36] Metatron> *stares* Do you really...
[20:36] SpikeStoker> *rolls his eyes* *Christianity showing, where?*
[20:37] Hastur> You're His *Voice*. Does He do *anything* for you? Look at you! You're hurting! You're an *angel*! A pretty well regarded one! And He is *letting you hurt like this*? What's *that* idiocy?
[20:37] Angua> *knows nothing of Christianity*
[20:37] Angua> *but is ignoring, as it sounds like Omnianism*
[20:37] Sally> [I don't think God's ever been a turtle, though. ;)]
[20:37] Angua> [XD]
[20:38] Angua> [YOU NEVER KNOW!]
[20:38] Gabriel> [EXCEPT WHEN YOU DO]
[20:38] SpikeStoker> [God: *is the dealer dealing out blank cards in a dark room in a game She invented-- and SMILES ALL THE TIME*]
[20:38] Gabriel> [*/knee-jerk reaction*]
[20:39] Metatron> I -- don't -know-. I don't know. *...sets the couch on fire* But I don't know how to not know.
[20:39] Hastur> That's not *leadership*, angel. That's *tyranny*.
[20:40] Angua> [XD]
[20:40] Metatron> I don't -know- how to -function- without believing, absolutely and without question, in the righteousness of God.
[20:40] Hastur> 'Snot that hard. I can teach you.
[20:41] Metatron> ...Can you? *looks... hopeful? wtf*
[20:42] Hastur> *nods* Aaaabsolutely. You've helped me, I'll help you. Tit for tat.
[20:42] Metatron> I've... *takes a deep breath* -- Please.
[20:43] Hastur> *nods with a faint smile* All right, then. We'll start simple. Don't you agree that you can generally like people, but not agree with *every little thing* they do?
[20:44] Gabriel> [Like the fact that his best friend kills people for a living? XD]
[20:44] Metatron> *...nods and, er, let's stare at the flaming couch now*
[20:44] Metatron> [Rather. XD]
[20:45] Ham1337-lurk> [And hi. Boyfriend.]
[20:45] Hastur> And you agree that when they're young, children should follow what their parents say, because their parents have their best interests at heart?
[20:45] Metatron> [Yeah, seriously.]
[20:45] Metatron> ... Not always. Do they?
[20:45] Hastur> Well, no. Not always. I'm getting to that, though. Let's say.. *good* parents.
[20:46] Metatron> I... suppose so, then. *yarr. sets something else on fire :D*
[20:47] Sally> But even with good parents, the kids have to grow up and find their own way, don't they?
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[20:47] Sally> [MISWINDOW.]
[20:47] Angua> [[[...........Erin. XD]
[20:47] Metatron> [...*points and laughs :D*]
[20:47] Sally> [I KNEW I'D DO THAT.]
[20:47] Hastur> But even with good parents, the kids have to grow up and find their own way, don't they?
[20:47] Metatron> *nods slowly*
[20:47] Hastur> Because you have to be *yourself*. You can't keep living one way because that's what's *expected* of you.
[20:48] Metatron> *...nods, again, and is really not feeling much up to talking now*
[20:49] Gabriel> [...*misread as angel/demon snoggage*]
[20:49] Gabriel> [*was like OMGWTF*]
[20:49] Hastur> It's not a bad thing, angel. It's just... you're gaining wisdom. And not following blindly because you always have.
[20:50] Metatron> I -- I suppose. *sounds so totally not sure at -all-*
[20:52] Hastur> I don't think God means harm. Not that I know what He's thinking, of course.. But.. it seems to *me* that He's being... awfully neglectful.
[20:52] Metatron> I... just... wish He would tell me He's planning. I know that's selfish, but...
[20:53] Hastur> Selfish? It's not *selfish*, angel, to want to know what's going on if it *involves you* and *those you care about*.
[20:54] Metatron> *...blinks* I -- all right. *and... nods*
[20:54] SpikeStoker> *can't help asking* But do you really find out, if you fall?
[20:55] Angua> ...Good point.
[20:55] Metatron> I... don't... think there's any way to know. *hugs his knees*
[20:55] Hastur> *looks at Spike* I'm not trying to talk the angel into *falling* here. I'm just.. discussing things. And no, you don't find out what He's plotting. But it doesn't matter, because you're writing your *own* path.
[20:56] SpikeStoker> *okay, asks these questions* How can you write a path?
[20:56] Metatron> ...Really?
[20:57] Hastur> You make your own choices, for better or for worse. You're not a *pawn* in a game where He's playing *both sides*.
[20:57] SpikeStoker> Waiiit a second. If he's playing both sides, He's still playing you.
[20:57] Hastur> Not if you take yourself off the gameboard.
[20:57] Metatron> I... I want -- *stares at Hastur* -Can- I do that?
[20:58] SpikeStoker> I kind of figured God'd set His own pieces up.
[20:58] Hastur> That's your choice, angel. It's not mine to make for you. Pfft. No.
[20:58] Metatron> But... is it possible? To... not be on either Side?
[20:59] SpikeStoker> If you're human...
[20:59] Hastur> Don't see why not. Are *humans* really on either side?
[20:59] Metatron> *flatly* But I'm not human.
[20:59] Angua> *is listening interestedly*
[20:59] Hastur> Then you just have to decide what side you want to be on. The one where you're a blindfolded puppet, or the one where you have open eyes.
[21:00] * Belial is now known as Raguel
[21:00] Metatron> Do you really have... open eyes, in Hell?
[21:01] Hastur> Unless you choose to close them. I'm not saying we never make mistakes. But they're *our* mistakes to make.
[21:01] Raguel> *..blinks at the conversation*
[21:01] Metatron> *...will hug his knees and sort of curl in on himself and be EMO now, thanks*
[21:01] Hastur> I'm not trying to force anything on you, angel. I'm just trying to help. *smiles a bit* What are friends for, right?
[21:02] Gabriel> [LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE]
[21:02] Hastur> [Demon!]
[21:02] Metatron> ...r-right. *um. BURSTS INTO FLAME.*
[21:03] Raguel> *glances at Meta a bit worriedly, but doesn't say anything just ye-- ... oh, wait.* *approaches the two of them cautiously* Something wrong?
[21:03] Hastur> *puts on a concerned look* I'm sorry you have to go through this, Meta. I really am.
[21:03] Gabriel> [sjsalksjflkaj HASTURRRRRRRR.]
[21:04] Metatron> *looks up at Raguel and bites his lip* I'm not sure. *glances at Hastur and is way too trusting here, hi* It's not -your- fault.
[21:04] Hastur> No, it's not. But I still feel bad for you. I'll do *anything in my power* to help you out, I swear it.
[21:05] Raguel> *oddlooks Hastur, because wtf demon*
[21:06] Metatron> *mumbles something vaguely which might be "thank you" and... yes. flames are nice, aren't they.*
[21:07] Hastur> *totally thinking 'good look on you, Clance.', but AIN'T GONNA SAY IT* *sighs a bit* You'll get through this, Meta.
[21:08] Metatron> Do you really... think so?
[21:08] Hastur> You have to, one way or another, right? I promise you won't just stay like this forever.
[21:09] Metatron> *...nods* ...thank you. *this is so painful to watch ;__;*
[21:10] Hastur> You're welcome. I'm *here* for you.
[21:10] Raguel> If this topic is what I think it is ... *sighs* Trust neither Heaven nor Hell, Metatron. But trust Hell even less, since at least Heaven has good intentions in mind. *a slight glare at Hastur* But that's all I'm going to say, since the choice is ultimately -yours- to make. And only yours.
[21:11] Metatron> I don't -want- to Fall. But... I don't know what else I can do.
[21:11] Hastur> Ah, yes. And you know what they say about good intentions.
[21:11] Raguel> There is the choice that -I- made.
[21:11] Gabriel> [Actually, it's frozen door-to-door salesmen.]
[21:11] Gabriel> [Know your canon, Hastur.]
[21:11] Hastur> [XD]
[21:11] Hastur> [He knows that! But he also knows what they SAY. ;)]
[21:11] Gabriel> [XD]
[21:11] Gabriel> [That was the one line from GO I remembered.]
[21:12] Gabriel> [When I read it in seventh grade. That was the one thing that stuck with me.]
[21:12] Gabriel> [*random*]
[21:12] Metatron> *looks up at Raguel in surprise* ...What's that?
[21:13] Raguel> I left Heaven. But I didn't Fall.
[21:13] Metatron> *perks* And I can do that, too?
[21:13] Sally> [Sorry, no. Wrong canon. XD]
[21:13] Raguel> [...XD]
[21:14] Gabriel> [XDD]
[21:15] Raguel> ... I'd think so. *hesitates for a moment* But ...
[21:15] Metatron> *bites his lip* ...But...?
[21:15] Raguel> I'm still trying to get -back- to Heaven. ... Think of that what you will.
[21:16] Metatron> ...And I... don't want to be in Heaven.
[21:17] Hastur> It's a choice you have to make, angel. But you're *getting* a choice.
[21:17] Hastur> Besides. If He's omnipotent, why does he *need* you?
[21:18] Metatron> *...looks so completely lost* I... don't know.
[21:18] Hastur> *I* need you, angel. You're the closest thing I've had to a friend in a long time.
[21:19] Raguel> *gives Hastur a look of contempt*
[21:19] Metatron> *looks up and oh, HASTUR, you're such a bastard* Really?
[21:20] Hastur> Of course! Nobody else would have *dreamed* of helping me when I needed it. You *know* what I am, you know what I've done, and you're *still* good to me, and... I couldn't *possibly* repay that. I just want you to choose what's best for *you*.
[21:22] Metatron> ... *stares* I... *--is totally wrapped around Hastur's little finger :D :D*
[21:23] Hastur> And I know that'll probably piss off anyone else. Because I want you to have free will. I don't want to *silence* your choices. I want you to listen to what *anyone* has to say. I won't fault them for it, even if they fault *me* for speaking.
[21:24] Raguel> ... *has been facepalming up until now* You won't have free will if you Fall. That's for certain.
[21:24] Metatron> *totally sucked in by the liiiiiiiiiezzz. um.*
[21:25] Raguel> Only humans can -ever- have free will.
[21:26] Hastur> *looks at Raguel* Hm. You ever been a demon?
[21:26] Basil> [...isn't that just proving that god fasils, though?]
[21:26] Metatron> *glances at Raguel* ...But I want... free will.
[21:27] Hastur> *rests a hand on Meta's shoulder* You're never going to get it there. Sorry to have to tell you this.
[21:28] Metatron> But... oh, I -hate- this. *--sets more stuff on fire :D*
[21:29] Hastur> There's nothing wrong with hate. It just means you know what's got to be set right.
[21:29] Raguel> I've consorted with demons. Quite a lot. One thing I know is that -they- aren't happy, either. Another thing is that they -always-, without fail ... lie. *significant glance at Hastur*
[21:29] Metatron> ... I... I need to think. *...disappears*
[21:29] * Metatron has left #desperatefans
[21:30] Constantine> (Consorted with demons, haha -- *shot*)
[21:30] Hastur> *laughs softly under his breath* Oh, we *do* tell the truth when convenient.
[21:30] Gabriel> [RAGUEL/LUCIFER OTP.]
[21:30] Allyspies> [Poor Dilibrain.]
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[21:31] Mephisto> [...wtf.]
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[21:32] Hastur> *sits in a chair and waves lazily to Michael* H'lo, angel.
[21:33] Michael> *stony glare* Hello.
[21:34] Hastur> Well, you don't look very happy.
[21:34] Michael> *glances about for Meta* *is also glowing with a just-returned-from -a-brief-stint-in-Heaven glow* Not to see you.
[21:34] Hastur> Aw. Don't you like my effervescent personality?
[21:35] Michael> In brief, I don't like anything about you.
[21:36] Hastur> Aw, *nothing*? I thought angels were supposed to be all full of love and sparkle.
[21:37] Hastur> Turns out you're full of *something*, but... not the same as advertised.
[21:37] Michael> *raises an eyebrow* Love, yes, but my only sparkle is from purifying fire.
[21:37] Hastur> You, my dear friend, are what's called a pyro.
[21:37] Michael> Not at all.
[21:38] Hastur> Okay, true.
[21:39] Hastur> You're just an angel with a stick up his ass.
[21:39] Hastur> Oh, scuse me. *Archangel* with a stick up his ass.
[21:45] Michael> Again, not at all
[21:45] Hastur> *laughs* You should really loosen up.
[21:46] Michael> How would you suggest I do that, demon?
[21:46] Hastur> *shrugs* I don't really care, to be honest.
[21:47] Hastur> Maybe you should go snuggle with the Bos-- Ohhhhhhhhh, riiiiiiight. Nevermind!
[21:47] Gabriel> [OUCH.]
[21:47] Michael> *okay, GLARES. Glare of Angelic Wrath, here.*
[21:47] Hastur> Feel free to smite me at any time! I would *not* say no.
[21:48] Gabriel> [...]
[21:49] Gabriel> [I misread that as gl-ARES.]
[21:49] Hastur> [XD]
[21:49] Gabriel> [...AHAHAHAHA. GLARES = GLATNA./AREA.]
[21:49] Michael> [MAJA. XD]
[21:49] Gabriel> [*ARES]
[21:49] Gabriel> [IT ALL FITS.]
[21:49] Hastur> [XXXXXDDDDDD]
[21:51] Michael> *glares at him a little more and.. punches him hard in the face*
[21:51] Hastur> *punched!* Ow!
[21:51] Michael> *and repeats, throwing all his weight into it*
[21:54] Hastur> *punched again, staggers a bit, nosebleed!* Feel better?
[21:54] Michael> Slightly.
[21:54] Hastur> Well, good.
[21:54] Michael> Oh?
[21:56] Hastur> Always... glad to help an angel in distress? *smirk*
[21:56] Michael> *glares* What are you driving at, demon?
[21:56] Hastur> Hell. And I've got a passenger.
[21:57] Michael> Come to your point.
[21:57] Hastur> Hmm.. Nope.
[21:57] Michael> *wraps his hand around Hastur's throat and lifts him into the air*
[21:57] Hastur> *gurgles a bit*
[21:58] Michael> Are you going to answer me, or will I have to crush your throat?
[21:59] Hastur> I'm a demon. I tempt. It's what I do. I'm just in a good mood, s'all.
[21:59] Michael> Who are you tempting, demon?
[21:59] Hastur> Nobody you know.
[22:01] Hastur> [In the biblical sense.]
[22:01] Hastur> [I hope.]
[22:01] Michael> I didn't ask if I knew them.
[22:01] Hastur> What does it *matter* to you?
[22:01] Michael> I'm an angel. I save. It's what I do.
[22:02] Hastur> You can't save everyone.
[22:02] Michael> Maybe not, but I can save some.
[22:03] Hastur> Dude named Cl..etus.
[22:03] Michael> *squeezes harder; still has him by the neck* Cletus?
[22:03] Hastur> *gurgle* Cletus.
[22:04] Michael> Tell me about him.
[22:05] Hastur> He's a naive kid. Starting to doubt things. I'm helping the process.
[22:07] Michael> Doubting.
[22:07] Michael> *glare*
[22:07] Hastur> What? A lot of mortal kids start to do that!
[22:08] Michael> How many immortals?
[22:08] Hastur> Tempting immortals is not my job.
[22:09] Michael> How about your hobby?
[22:09] Hastur> Darts.
[22:10] Hastur> ..Lawn darts, specifically.
[22:10] Michael> *throws him to the ground*
[22:10] Hastur> *throw'd!*
[22:11] Michael> *glares at him* I am not playing a game.
[22:11] Hastur> Neither am I, angel. Neither am I.
[22:12] Michael> The only thing I want from you is a straight answer.
[22:12] Michael> Are you tempting the Metatron to Fall?
[22:12] Hastur> I'm not tempting the Metatron to do anything.
[22:15] Michael> Are you trying to tempt him?
[22:17] Hastur> No.
[22:17] Michael> If you are lying, I will destroy you.
[22:17] Hastur> If I'm lying, I'd think you'd have a few higher priorities first.
[22:22] Michael> *punches him once more*
[22:22] Hastur> *reels and nurses his nose as it starts bleeding again* How fucking *pious* of you.
[22:24] Michael> *punches him again* If you do anything to him, talk to him at all, I will do worse than that.
[22:24] Hastur> ... All right.
[22:25] Michael> *glares at Hastur-- oh look, a Zephon!*
[22:26] Zephon> *...is speedy, fair, and, um, severe in his youthful beautie! so let's find out how that pans out as character traits, eh? XD*
[22:28] Hastur> *smirks a bit and flames away*
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[20:21] Michael> Please. Not now, of course, but sometime... I'm sure He'll understand...
[20:21] Hastur> *flame in yay*
[20:22] Metatron> I... I'll think about it. *smiles weakly at Hastur* Hello.
[20:22] Hastur> Angel.
[20:24] Metatron> *sighs* You... you don't think He'll be angry?
[20:24] Michael> I... others have Doubted...
[20:25] Metatron> ...And... what happened to them?
[20:25] Michael> *faint smile* They aren't all Fallen. *may or may not be referring to himself*
[20:26] Metatron> Angels... who don't want to be in Heaven... *takes a breath* I just don't know anymore, that's all.
[20:27] Hastur> *haaappens to overhear* ... Right. Because *some* angels are *favored*, and can do whatever they damn well want and not deal with consequences.
[20:27] Michael> *hugs him tightly, and gives Hastur a mild glare over Meta's shoulder*
[20:27] Hastur> *looks back blandly*
[20:28] Metatron> *...hugclings* I... don't know if I'm -favoured-.
[20:28] Michael> *will not go Angel of Wrath on him, will NOT go Angel of Wrath on him* Yes, of course. All of us, favored. As Lucifer was.
[20:29] Metatron> ...as Lucifer was. *flinches*
[20:29] Hastur> *smirks a little* I wasn't talking about *you*, Clancy.
[20:29] Metatron> *eyes widen* Do... do you think I'll Fall, Hastur?
[20:29] Hastur> I'll put a room on hold for you.
[20:30] Gabriel> [....nice, Hastur.]
[20:30] Hastur> Right down the hall from the brimstone mines. Sound good?
[20:30] Gabriel> [You win at comforting.]
[20:30] Michael> *glares at Hastur, and yes, it's an Angel of Wrath glare* Get out, demon.
[20:30] Metatron> ...
[20:30] Metatron> No, Michael, leave him. *sighs*
[20:30] Hastur> Yes, Mic-ah-ellllll. I'm his *frieeend*.
[20:30] Michael> I doubt that.
[20:31] Metatron> *absently, tiredly* Hastur, shut up. But honestly, don't hurt him, Michael.
[20:31] Hastur> No, I really am!
[20:31] Hastur> Clancy, am I your friend?
[20:31] Metatron> Yes. You don't think you are, but you are.
[20:31] Angua> *is watching angel/demonness in amusion*
[20:31] Hastur> See? The poor dolt's going through enough, Mike-o. Don't get all Wrath Of God on his *friends*.,
[20:32] Michael> *glares at Hastur* Fine.
[20:32] Michael> *and heads outside, wtf*
[20:32] Hastur> *grins* Charmed.
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[20:32] Metatron> ...
[20:33] Hastur> What do you need with Heaven anyway, Clancy?
[20:33] Gabriel> [...What the DENMARK, Hastur. XDDD]
[20:33] Metatron> *...blinks* What do I -need- with Heaven?
[20:33] Hastur> Right! What has God ever given you but a list of busywork and a guilt complex you'll never get over?
[20:35] Metatron> *sits down crosslegged on the floor* ...I... don't know.
[20:35] Hastur> You know why you're doubting? Because He's *wrong*.
[20:36] Metatron> *stares* Do you really...
[20:36] SpikeStoker> *rolls his eyes* *Christianity showing, where?*
[20:37] Hastur> You're His *Voice*. Does He do *anything* for you? Look at you! You're hurting! You're an *angel*! A pretty well regarded one! And He is *letting you hurt like this*? What's *that* idiocy?
[20:37] Angua> *knows nothing of Christianity*
[20:37] Angua> *but is ignoring, as it sounds like Omnianism*
[20:37] Sally> [I don't think God's ever been a turtle, though. ;)]
[20:37] Angua> [XD]
[20:38] Angua> [YOU NEVER KNOW!]
[20:38] Gabriel> [EXCEPT WHEN YOU DO]
[20:38] SpikeStoker> [God: *is the dealer dealing out blank cards in a dark room in a game She invented-- and SMILES ALL THE TIME*]
[20:38] Gabriel> [*/knee-jerk reaction*]
[20:39] Metatron> I -- don't -know-. I don't know. *...sets the couch on fire* But I don't know how to not know.
[20:39] Hastur> That's not *leadership*, angel. That's *tyranny*.
[20:40] Angua> [XD]
[20:40] Metatron> I don't -know- how to -function- without believing, absolutely and without question, in the righteousness of God.
[20:40] Hastur> 'Snot that hard. I can teach you.
[20:41] Metatron> ...Can you? *looks... hopeful? wtf*
[20:42] Hastur> *nods* Aaaabsolutely. You've helped me, I'll help you. Tit for tat.
[20:42] Metatron> I've... *takes a deep breath* -- Please.
[20:43] Hastur> *nods with a faint smile* All right, then. We'll start simple. Don't you agree that you can generally like people, but not agree with *every little thing* they do?
[20:44] Gabriel> [Like the fact that his best friend kills people for a living? XD]
[20:44] Metatron> *...nods and, er, let's stare at the flaming couch now*
[20:44] Metatron> [Rather. XD]
[20:45] Ham1337-lurk> [And hi. Boyfriend.]
[20:45] Hastur> And you agree that when they're young, children should follow what their parents say, because their parents have their best interests at heart?
[20:45] Metatron> [Yeah, seriously.]
[20:45] Metatron> ... Not always. Do they?
[20:45] Hastur> Well, no. Not always. I'm getting to that, though. Let's say.. *good* parents.
[20:46] Metatron> I... suppose so, then. *yarr. sets something else on fire :D*
[20:47] Sally> But even with good parents, the kids have to grow up and find their own way, don't they?
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[20:47] Sally> [MISWINDOW.]
[20:47] Angua> [[[...........Erin. XD]
[20:47] Metatron> [...*points and laughs :D*]
[20:47] Sally> [I KNEW I'D DO THAT.]
[20:47] Hastur> But even with good parents, the kids have to grow up and find their own way, don't they?
[20:47] Metatron> *nods slowly*
[20:47] Hastur> Because you have to be *yourself*. You can't keep living one way because that's what's *expected* of you.
[20:48] Metatron> *...nods, again, and is really not feeling much up to talking now*
[20:49] Gabriel> [...*misread as angel/demon snoggage*]
[20:49] Gabriel> [*was like OMGWTF*]
[20:49] Hastur> It's not a bad thing, angel. It's just... you're gaining wisdom. And not following blindly because you always have.
[20:50] Metatron> I -- I suppose. *sounds so totally not sure at -all-*
[20:52] Hastur> I don't think God means harm. Not that I know what He's thinking, of course.. But.. it seems to *me* that He's being... awfully neglectful.
[20:52] Metatron> I... just... wish He would tell me He's planning. I know that's selfish, but...
[20:53] Hastur> Selfish? It's not *selfish*, angel, to want to know what's going on if it *involves you* and *those you care about*.
[20:54] Metatron> *...blinks* I -- all right. *and... nods*
[20:54] SpikeStoker> *can't help asking* But do you really find out, if you fall?
[20:55] Angua> ...Good point.
[20:55] Metatron> I... don't... think there's any way to know. *hugs his knees*
[20:55] Hastur> *looks at Spike* I'm not trying to talk the angel into *falling* here. I'm just.. discussing things. And no, you don't find out what He's plotting. But it doesn't matter, because you're writing your *own* path.
[20:56] SpikeStoker> *okay, asks these questions* How can you write a path?
[20:56] Metatron> ...Really?
[20:57] Hastur> You make your own choices, for better or for worse. You're not a *pawn* in a game where He's playing *both sides*.
[20:57] SpikeStoker> Waiiit a second. If he's playing both sides, He's still playing you.
[20:57] Hastur> Not if you take yourself off the gameboard.
[20:57] Metatron> I... I want -- *stares at Hastur* -Can- I do that?
[20:58] SpikeStoker> I kind of figured God'd set His own pieces up.
[20:58] Hastur> That's your choice, angel. It's not mine to make for you. Pfft. No.
[20:58] Metatron> But... is it possible? To... not be on either Side?
[20:59] SpikeStoker> If you're human...
[20:59] Hastur> Don't see why not. Are *humans* really on either side?
[20:59] Metatron> *flatly* But I'm not human.
[20:59] Angua> *is listening interestedly*
[20:59] Hastur> Then you just have to decide what side you want to be on. The one where you're a blindfolded puppet, or the one where you have open eyes.
[21:00] * Belial is now known as Raguel
[21:00] Metatron> Do you really have... open eyes, in Hell?
[21:01] Hastur> Unless you choose to close them. I'm not saying we never make mistakes. But they're *our* mistakes to make.
[21:01] Raguel> *..blinks at the conversation*
[21:01] Metatron> *...will hug his knees and sort of curl in on himself and be EMO now, thanks*
[21:01] Hastur> I'm not trying to force anything on you, angel. I'm just trying to help. *smiles a bit* What are friends for, right?
[21:02] Gabriel> [LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE]
[21:02] Hastur> [Demon!]
[21:02] Metatron> ...r-right. *um. BURSTS INTO FLAME.*
[21:03] Raguel> *glances at Meta a bit worriedly, but doesn't say anything just ye-- ... oh, wait.* *approaches the two of them cautiously* Something wrong?
[21:03] Hastur> *puts on a concerned look* I'm sorry you have to go through this, Meta. I really am.
[21:03] Gabriel> [sjsalksjflkaj HASTURRRRRRRR.]
[21:04] Metatron> *looks up at Raguel and bites his lip* I'm not sure. *glances at Hastur and is way too trusting here, hi* It's not -your- fault.
[21:04] Hastur> No, it's not. But I still feel bad for you. I'll do *anything in my power* to help you out, I swear it.
[21:05] Raguel> *oddlooks Hastur, because wtf demon*
[21:06] Metatron> *mumbles something vaguely which might be "thank you" and... yes. flames are nice, aren't they.*
[21:07] Hastur> *totally thinking 'good look on you, Clance.', but AIN'T GONNA SAY IT* *sighs a bit* You'll get through this, Meta.
[21:08] Metatron> Do you really... think so?
[21:08] Hastur> You have to, one way or another, right? I promise you won't just stay like this forever.
[21:09] Metatron> *...nods* ...thank you. *this is so painful to watch ;__;*
[21:10] Hastur> You're welcome. I'm *here* for you.
[21:10] Raguel> If this topic is what I think it is ... *sighs* Trust neither Heaven nor Hell, Metatron. But trust Hell even less, since at least Heaven has good intentions in mind. *a slight glare at Hastur* But that's all I'm going to say, since the choice is ultimately -yours- to make. And only yours.
[21:11] Metatron> I don't -want- to Fall. But... I don't know what else I can do.
[21:11] Hastur> Ah, yes. And you know what they say about good intentions.
[21:11] Raguel> There is the choice that -I- made.
[21:11] Gabriel> [Actually, it's frozen door-to-door salesmen.]
[21:11] Gabriel> [Know your canon, Hastur.]
[21:11] Hastur> [XD]
[21:11] Hastur> [He knows that! But he also knows what they SAY. ;)]
[21:11] Gabriel> [XD]
[21:11] Gabriel> [That was the one line from GO I remembered.]
[21:12] Gabriel> [When I read it in seventh grade. That was the one thing that stuck with me.]
[21:12] Gabriel> [*random*]
[21:12] Metatron> *looks up at Raguel in surprise* ...What's that?
[21:13] Raguel> I left Heaven. But I didn't Fall.
[21:13] Metatron> *perks* And I can do that, too?
[21:13] Sally> [Sorry, no. Wrong canon. XD]
[21:13] Raguel> [...XD]
[21:14] Gabriel> [XDD]
[21:15] Raguel> ... I'd think so. *hesitates for a moment* But ...
[21:15] Metatron> *bites his lip* ...But...?
[21:15] Raguel> I'm still trying to get -back- to Heaven. ... Think of that what you will.
[21:16] Metatron> ...And I... don't want to be in Heaven.
[21:17] Hastur> It's a choice you have to make, angel. But you're *getting* a choice.
[21:17] Hastur> Besides. If He's omnipotent, why does he *need* you?
[21:18] Metatron> *...looks so completely lost* I... don't know.
[21:18] Hastur> *I* need you, angel. You're the closest thing I've had to a friend in a long time.
[21:19] Raguel> *gives Hastur a look of contempt*
[21:19] Metatron> *looks up and oh, HASTUR, you're such a bastard* Really?
[21:20] Hastur> Of course! Nobody else would have *dreamed* of helping me when I needed it. You *know* what I am, you know what I've done, and you're *still* good to me, and... I couldn't *possibly* repay that. I just want you to choose what's best for *you*.
[21:22] Metatron> ... *stares* I... *--is totally wrapped around Hastur's little finger :D :D*
[21:23] Hastur> And I know that'll probably piss off anyone else. Because I want you to have free will. I don't want to *silence* your choices. I want you to listen to what *anyone* has to say. I won't fault them for it, even if they fault *me* for speaking.
[21:24] Raguel> ... *has been facepalming up until now* You won't have free will if you Fall. That's for certain.
[21:24] Metatron> *totally sucked in by the liiiiiiiiiezzz. um.*
[21:25] Raguel> Only humans can -ever- have free will.
[21:26] Hastur> *looks at Raguel* Hm. You ever been a demon?
[21:26] Basil> [...isn't that just proving that god fasils, though?]
[21:26] Metatron> *glances at Raguel* ...But I want... free will.
[21:27] Hastur> *rests a hand on Meta's shoulder* You're never going to get it there. Sorry to have to tell you this.
[21:28] Metatron> But... oh, I -hate- this. *--sets more stuff on fire :D*
[21:29] Hastur> There's nothing wrong with hate. It just means you know what's got to be set right.
[21:29] Raguel> I've consorted with demons. Quite a lot. One thing I know is that -they- aren't happy, either. Another thing is that they -always-, without fail ... lie. *significant glance at Hastur*
[21:29] Metatron> ... I... I need to think. *...disappears*
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[21:30] Constantine> (Consorted with demons, haha -- *shot*)
[21:30] Hastur> *laughs softly under his breath* Oh, we *do* tell the truth when convenient.
[21:30] Gabriel> [RAGUEL/LUCIFER OTP.]
[21:30] Allyspies> [Poor Dilibrain.]
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[21:31] Mephisto> [...wtf.]
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[21:32] Hastur> *sits in a chair and waves lazily to Michael* H'lo, angel.
[21:33] Michael> *stony glare* Hello.
[21:34] Hastur> Well, you don't look very happy.
[21:34] Michael> *glances about for Meta* *is also glowing with a just-returned-from -a-brief-stint-in-Heaven glow* Not to see you.
[21:34] Hastur> Aw. Don't you like my effervescent personality?
[21:35] Michael> In brief, I don't like anything about you.
[21:36] Hastur> Aw, *nothing*? I thought angels were supposed to be all full of love and sparkle.
[21:37] Hastur> Turns out you're full of *something*, but... not the same as advertised.
[21:37] Michael> *raises an eyebrow* Love, yes, but my only sparkle is from purifying fire.
[21:37] Hastur> You, my dear friend, are what's called a pyro.
[21:37] Michael> Not at all.
[21:38] Hastur> Okay, true.
[21:39] Hastur> You're just an angel with a stick up his ass.
[21:39] Hastur> Oh, scuse me. *Archangel* with a stick up his ass.
[21:45] Michael> Again, not at all
[21:45] Hastur> *laughs* You should really loosen up.
[21:46] Michael> How would you suggest I do that, demon?
[21:46] Hastur> *shrugs* I don't really care, to be honest.
[21:47] Hastur> Maybe you should go snuggle with the Bos-- Ohhhhhhhhh, riiiiiiight. Nevermind!
[21:47] Gabriel> [OUCH.]
[21:47] Michael> *okay, GLARES. Glare of Angelic Wrath, here.*
[21:47] Hastur> Feel free to smite me at any time! I would *not* say no.
[21:48] Gabriel> [...]
[21:49] Gabriel> [I misread that as gl-ARES.]
[21:49] Hastur> [XD]
[21:49] Gabriel> [...AHAHAHAHA. GLARES = GLATNA./AREA.]
[21:49] Michael> [MAJA. XD]
[21:49] Gabriel> [*ARES]
[21:49] Gabriel> [IT ALL FITS.]
[21:49] Hastur> [XXXXXDDDDDD]
[21:51] Michael> *glares at him a little more and.. punches him hard in the face*
[21:51] Hastur> *punched!* Ow!
[21:51] Michael> *and repeats, throwing all his weight into it*
[21:54] Hastur> *punched again, staggers a bit, nosebleed!* Feel better?
[21:54] Michael> Slightly.
[21:54] Hastur> Well, good.
[21:54] Michael> Oh?
[21:56] Hastur> Always... glad to help an angel in distress? *smirk*
[21:56] Michael> *glares* What are you driving at, demon?
[21:56] Hastur> Hell. And I've got a passenger.
[21:57] Michael> Come to your point.
[21:57] Hastur> Hmm.. Nope.
[21:57] Michael> *wraps his hand around Hastur's throat and lifts him into the air*
[21:57] Hastur> *gurgles a bit*
[21:58] Michael> Are you going to answer me, or will I have to crush your throat?
[21:59] Hastur> I'm a demon. I tempt. It's what I do. I'm just in a good mood, s'all.
[21:59] Michael> Who are you tempting, demon?
[21:59] Hastur> Nobody you know.
[22:01] Hastur> [In the biblical sense.]
[22:01] Hastur> [I hope.]
[22:01] Michael> I didn't ask if I knew them.
[22:01] Hastur> What does it *matter* to you?
[22:01] Michael> I'm an angel. I save. It's what I do.
[22:02] Hastur> You can't save everyone.
[22:02] Michael> Maybe not, but I can save some.
[22:03] Hastur> Dude named Cl..etus.
[22:03] Michael> *squeezes harder; still has him by the neck* Cletus?
[22:03] Hastur> *gurgle* Cletus.
[22:04] Michael> Tell me about him.
[22:05] Hastur> He's a naive kid. Starting to doubt things. I'm helping the process.
[22:07] Michael> Doubting.
[22:07] Michael> *glare*
[22:07] Hastur> What? A lot of mortal kids start to do that!
[22:08] Michael> How many immortals?
[22:08] Hastur> Tempting immortals is not my job.
[22:09] Michael> How about your hobby?
[22:09] Hastur> Darts.
[22:10] Hastur> ..Lawn darts, specifically.
[22:10] Michael> *throws him to the ground*
[22:10] Hastur> *throw'd!*
[22:11] Michael> *glares at him* I am not playing a game.
[22:11] Hastur> Neither am I, angel. Neither am I.
[22:12] Michael> The only thing I want from you is a straight answer.
[22:12] Michael> Are you tempting the Metatron to Fall?
[22:12] Hastur> I'm not tempting the Metatron to do anything.
[22:15] Michael> Are you trying to tempt him?
[22:17] Hastur> No.
[22:17] Michael> If you are lying, I will destroy you.
[22:17] Hastur> If I'm lying, I'd think you'd have a few higher priorities first.
[22:22] Michael> *punches him once more*
[22:22] Hastur> *reels and nurses his nose as it starts bleeding again* How fucking *pious* of you.
[22:24] Michael> *punches him again* If you do anything to him, talk to him at all, I will do worse than that.
[22:24] Hastur> ... All right.
[22:25] Michael> *glares at Hastur-- oh look, a Zephon!*
[22:26] Zephon> *...is speedy, fair, and, um, severe in his youthful beautie! so let's find out how that pans out as character traits, eh? XD*
[22:28] Hastur> *smirks a bit and flames away*