rambling post inc (volume 2)

Jul 10, 2006 00:19

I don't usually like to post quotes because I believe in the merit of individual thought...but I really liked this one.

"Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it." - RumiAnd now for some of my own ruminations ( Read more... )

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tblackwynd July 10 2006, 07:47:02 UTC
"I was thinking today that maybe, just maybe...a good portion of cynicism might actually be a healthy thing?"

It's not. Remember me over the past year? It's not the best place to be.

Cynicisim is just one of our defenses against getting hurt. We put up that shield, and refuse things or people to get close to us, and it hurts less in that moment. However, if we don't let anyone close, it hurts us more in the long run.

"Question: Is it better to give up your dreams..."

Die to your self, then ask that question again.

"if I am too "spiritual" I risk becoming trite, dismissive, and cold.I'm not sure where you're getting this from. I look at the people in my life who are being lead by their own spirituality; Justin, Isaac, Jarred, Arron. The list goes on; and none of them are any of the traits you list above ( ... )

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demiga July 10 2006, 08:16:26 UTC
I hate to repeat past mistakes, so I absolutely agree that I need to be back with you guys - it really just isn't possible right now though.

I wasn't saying go over-board with the cynicism, but just a dash of it (maybe it'd be better to call it skepticism) might be healthy, so that you don't expect too much and end up disappointed.

And yes, even within this line of inquiry i've realized the "dying to self" angle on it. I didn't bring it up because its one of those moments where I feel trite even saying anything about it?

That's why I said that people who are too spiritual seem cold, because they don't have any *Real* answers...only one's like "Trust God" or "Have faith" or "Just believe" or my absolute favorite, "We can't understand God's plan"But you are right...human beings can't live without trust. If that wall is built too strongly, it is very devastating, if not for just that one instant of relief ( ... )

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tblackwynd July 10 2006, 08:41:58 UTC
Come up soon. I want to talk to you face to face about this sort of thing. It's been something I've been wanting to do for a while now.

Quad <3,

-Ty

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masoretic July 11 2006, 15:08:17 UTC
maybe it'd be better to call it skepticism) might be healthy

Skepticism is not healthy. Bereanism is...

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stupercow July 10 2006, 13:02:08 UTC
"Is it better to give up your dreams, knowing that there's a distinct reality that regardless of how much effort you put out, your God-given talents, and your character...that they still may never come to pass ( ... )

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stupercow July 10 2006, 13:04:59 UTC
oh and ps the whole too spiritually minded is no earthly good is foolishness. It sounds wise because it's usually applied to people that are spiritually twisted. We understand that a spiritual mind focuses properly on the physical.

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demiga July 10 2006, 17:20:59 UTC
So, in other words...you are telling me to bury my doubts with busy-ness? That seems very disingenuous.

Also...if we carefully read the Scriptures, it really *is* about despising the earthly.

Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.

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moxwax July 10 2006, 18:51:50 UTC
but how are you to hate and honor your parents at the same time? That seems like the contradiction to me. I think "hate" is the wrong word and was lost in translation somewhere. Seems like that is in direct contrast with so many other biblical teachings...

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demiga July 12 2006, 03:39:26 UTC
posting in my own legendary thread

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painful_honesty July 15 2006, 01:05:40 UTC
I feel this strange dichotomy inside; I am a physical being, and thus have physical needs...but I am also a spiritual being and that complicates things. If I am too "earthly", I risk becoming immoral and flippant...if I am too "spiritual" I risk becoming trite, dismissive, and cold. I wish I could be like Jesus, having the perfect balance of the spiritual and the physical...at least I know that there's someone who has the answer, even if it doesn't seem forthcoming.And thats exactly what youre supposed to be aware of. Youre learning balance, and the first thing to happen when learning balance is this: Picture a pendulum that swings really far north, and then really far south, and then as time progresses and/or learning takes place, the pendulum doesnt swing as far north or south any more, but finds a middle spot that achieves what is necessary ( ... )

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painful_honesty July 15 2006, 01:10:30 UTC
I'm finding myself increasingly distasteful of failure, which prompts me to dismiss my dreams in the face of an increasingly gritty reality in which the good guy really CAN lose, the nice guy CAN finish last, and at the end of the story, the main character loses the girl or dies himself.

not me it just makes me want to jump off the cliff like I used to do in Mario Brothers!!!!!

LOL!!!!

(is having a moment)

(me and Isaac used to play Mario Brothers back in the day and I would lose all my lifes on purpose, just start going really fast and just jump off the cliff on purpose, just to be silly...) Mostly I did it just to make him laugh though...

/silly tangent

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