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delta_mai

Hey guys!

Jul 11, 2010 19:11

Just another bored-at-work post :D Btw, I have posted those icons I'd been promising for about a month! They're in the post before this one, if anyone missed them. cos only 2 people commented... :P

( general Buffy-related ramblings and ship sobbing through here... )

otp: xander/cordelia, xander needs to get in my pants, real life, poll, whedon, kitty tiemz, artish, holidaaaaay, btvs, lady gaga, buffy is a bamf, bored at work

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Babbling, sorry. softly_me July 11 2010, 19:17:43 UTC

Speaking as a Xander fan, he makes a lot of mistakes in third season, especially in regard to the Angel-stuff. In a lot of ways, I think he has a right to be upset at Buffy in the beginning of the season. They're big fight at her house in Dead Man's Party is totally justified because she did just abandon them. Of course, Buffy had a lot of good reasons to go, but Xander has a reason to be upset. They're both right and both hurt which is what makes the fight so interesting.

I think that fundamentally from the very beginning, Xander has a real problem with distinguishing between Angel & Angelus. For us viewers, it's like they're two completely different people so we don't hold Angel responsible for Angelus' actions. Xander only sees that the person who tormented them for months and killed Jenny is now sorry about it. Like a serial killer who has decided he feels bad about what he did. In Xander's mind, Angel is still responsible and shouldn't have his actions forgotten. So, while his attitude toward Angel is often completely ( ... )

Re: Babbling is fun! delta_mai July 11 2010, 19:52:29 UTC

Oh I was totally on Buffy's side for that, because I really empathised with her. So much so that the first few episodes made me sob. Yeah, I'm a basket case. But I felt that Xander should have been waaay more understanding. She's BUFFY - she wouldn't have "abandoned" them unless she had a really good reason or something terrible had happened. And I can't believe how insensitive he was. It's annoying cos usually I adore Xander, but I'm having a hard time liking him this season :( May have to rewatch my fave S2 eps :P ( ... )

Re: Babbling is fun! softly_me July 16 2010, 02:29:15 UTC

I understand that. Buffy is my girl and I definitely see where she's coming from. I just also see how Xander could feel really hurt and betrayed. In my rewatches, I've noticed how early Xander has a bit of an anger problem. He has trouble keeping his temper in check. This is particularly interesting when we learn a little more about his father.

Uh, comic spoiler, Xander is currently dating someone other than Anya, but it's not someone you've met yet in the series. Needless to say, it's not Buffy *grumbles* BUT, there is major B/X tension.

Re: Babbling is fun! delta_mai July 16 2010, 16:19:41 UTC

Yeah Xander does snap a lot, at least in the seasons I've seen. Can't wait to learn more about his family :)

Yeah I googled the Xander shippage in the comics :( Stupid Dawn. And yeah Buffy falls for him, right? And I know Anya dies :( Stupid spoilers.

Re: Babbling is fun! softly_me July 18 2010, 02:55:55 UTC

Stupid Dawn ruins everything. It's even worse because I quite like Dawn and want her to be shiny and happy and everything. But thoughts of her and Xander just rub me the wrong way. And, yes, Buffy falls for him, but the extent of her feelings is open for interpretation.

Re: Babbling, sorry. delta_mai July 11 2010, 19:58:44 UTC

PS: the whole cheating-on-Cordy thing crushes me. Not just because they're my OTP, but also because she was changing, she fell in love with him, and I feel like sometimes not even Xander likes her. So it's horrible that he doesn't even appreciate her in the relationship. Or maybe he does, but I just don't get that impression :(

Re: Babbling, sorry. softly_me July 16 2010, 02:34:22 UTC

Yeah, it's strange that we got some scenes about how much Cordy loved Xander, but none about how much Xander loved her. It's probably just years of X/C fanfiction, but I definitely think he loved her. It's important to remeember that Xander doesn't come from a happy home. I think it's fair to say that he doesn't really know what a healthy relationship looks like. He doesn't know how to express affection.

As saddened as I was by the X/C break-up, I did love Cordy so much for not giving him a second chance. She was heart-broken and it would have been easy to fall back to him, but she decided to move on because she knows she doesn't deserve to be cheated on.

Re: Babbling, sorry. delta_mai July 16 2010, 16:14:58 UTC

True. And he did show how much he was crushed by her leaving him in S2. But I wish we had seen more of how he loved her. I guess if we had, though, then there would have been no build up to the Xander/Willow plot.

Yeah that was cool of her. She had too much pride to beg for him back, even though she was devastated. But Xander didn't even make an effort to get back with her! Whereas Willow tried (and succeeded) to get back with Oz. I think maybe Xander had drifted away from Cordy anyway, which is why he was attracted to Willow. And although Willow was in love with Oz, because she loved Xander for so long, as soon as he returned her feelings that reminded her of how she loved him once.

That's just how I see it.

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