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jodel_from_aol December 5 2008, 16:45:21 UTC
Not to quibble unduly, but it is already established that Moody's magical eye can see through the Cloak.

Of course Rowling doesn't appear to have *remembered* that, for she certainly doesn't make any kind of a point of it, so Harry's removing the eye comes across as an act of misplaced sentiment, rather than a rather lame attempt to conceal his presence (they may *think* he infiltrated the Ministry, but they cannot *prove* it was him, without the record the eye was making). All they can say for sure is that they had an intruder.

Dropped the ball again, in other words.

*I* still think that finding out where Umbridge lives and trying out a bit of burglary would have been a better plan. But you can't try to convince everyone that you are a *hero* by breaking into someone's flat.

Yes, why didn't the stun and obliviate Yaxley? 3 to 1 odds not good enough for them?

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anehan December 5 2008, 23:08:19 UTC
Except that we have never been told that Moody's eye makes a recording of what it sees, so there would have been no reason to remove it.

*I* still think that finding out where Umbridge lives and trying out a bit of burglary would have been a better plan.

Definitely.

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jodel_from_aol December 6 2008, 00:10:45 UTC
Well, no, we weren't *told* that the eye was recording what it saw. But if it wasn't, why was it even there. Yeah, sure, it was keeping watch over the envelope stuffers, but what is the point of surveylance if there is no way of relaying the information?

And in fact, I think it probably *did* relay the info that Harry had been sighted in the room. Otherwise, why would an intruder *automatically* be assumed to be Harry? I'm sue there were *some* other "undesirables" who would have made the list.

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go_back_chief December 5 2008, 17:27:59 UTC
Rita Skeeter is the bestselling author of Armando Dippet: Master or Moron? I wonder how that book has managed to sell well. It sounds like the most boring book ever. Also, I didn't know Dippet was important enough to have a biography made of him.

But he was a principal at Hogwarts! Surely this makes him the WW eqivalent of a super celebrity all by itself? It's practically the same as being the president of the world's most powerful nation!

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montavilla December 5 2008, 19:43:14 UTC
I like to think that the Rita's book about Dippet was written while she was first year at Hogwarts (when Dippet was Headmaster). It was a best-seller among the other students, who found the rude scrawled cartoons showing Dippet stupidly stirring his coffee with his wand hilarious.

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violaswamp December 5 2008, 23:43:38 UTC
Haha. I like this idea. Because I'm not sure who else would be interested.

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go_back_chief December 6 2008, 21:03:29 UTC
That's food for thoughts.

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sistermagpie December 5 2008, 19:21:43 UTC
Don't worry about taking a break. With this book you can rest assured the characters are doing the same thing.

Ah, another classic Harry plan--lots of talking leading up to not really a plan at all.

Remember the Patronus spell is the most slippery when it comes to its difficulty, so it also fits that Hermione would learn it first and then be the one to have trouble with it. Also it's Harry's Big Deal spell so it's a good tool to remind us that Harry's supposed to be better than Hermione at DADA for some reason.

I do think the Registration Committee is clearly a Nazi reference. Which will have to do in lieu of thinking through what should actually be happening here.

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anehan December 5 2008, 23:12:46 UTC
At the very least I didn't spend my time sitting in a tent. My life, as boring as it is, would have made for more interesting story than that of our heroes.

Also it's Harry's Big Deal spell so it's a good tool to remind us that Harry's supposed to be better than Hermione at DADA for some reason.

Ah, yes. All semblance of logic flies out of the window when it comes to Harry and DADA.

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eir_de_scania December 6 2008, 14:53:00 UTC
* Harry says the Patronus spell is the only one Hermione ever has trouble with. Maybe my memory is like a sieve, but I thought it was the Riddikulus spell she had failed to do.
***JKR is not good at remembering details like that. I have a dark suspicion she doesn't find them very important/interesting, but don't quote me on that. Anyway, that's what beta-readers and editors are for, among other things, catch inconsistencies like this. And those WTF?!? moments where things that are clear to the writer is not so to the reader.

(I know it's hard to believe, but JKR actually had editors looking through the MS, but evidently they just checked for Rudeness that might Upset the Kiddies (or their parents), before the MS was rushed off to be printed.)

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anehan December 6 2008, 15:02:19 UTC
I suspect that the more famous JKR became, the less her editors were allowed to interfere with what she had written.

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eir_de_scania December 6 2008, 15:20:31 UTC
Either that, or they didn't care? It would sell millions no matter what.

I'm still intrigued about the secrecy and lack of proper editing. No other author I've heard of is working on their own to this extreme. The normal way is the author has one or two trusted beta readers they can discuss things with, and when the MS is finished the editor have their say. No matter how big and famous an author, they don't try to write even single books, much less a series, without input. If nothing else, there are those WTF?!? moments that fresh eyes will catch.

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tdotm December 7 2008, 21:20:18 UTC
The thing is, at this stage, the money had been earned and should have been less important. Not for the publishers obviously, but for JKR. By book 6, she should have been worried about her legacy. As the hype dies down, and the years pass, these books, and her reputation, may well be ripped to shreds. (Not just by a few bitter ex-fans on websites, either!) The first ones were refreshing and fun, but the last one in particular was embarrassingly sub-par.

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night_axe December 6 2008, 17:56:28 UTC
* What's it with Rowling and the comparisons of people with animals? Rats, lions, toads and now the Minister is like a crab.

Go figure. It used to be shorthand for characterization. In popular stereotype rats are treacherous and toads disgusting, so Pettigrew's a rat and Umbridge looks like a toad. But what's the stereotype of a crab, and when did Harry ever see one, under a rock or otherwise?

* Ahahaa, Dumbledore had elbow-length hair even as a teenager. I can so imagine him grooming his hair, looking for split ends. With his fancy clothes and his fancy hair, Dumbledore is quite vain a wizard.

* OMG, is that what JKR thinks gay people are?

I wouldn't put it past her, but otoh she's made such a point of wizards' freaky dress sense that Dumbledore doesn't stand out in any way. Whatever she intended it comes across like he's just one more conceited wizard who likes attention.

Btw, elbow-length red hair? Seriously? Maybe the Ron-is-Dumbledore theorists gave up too soon. They should have been looking closer at Ginny.

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anehan December 6 2008, 18:00:26 UTC
I wonder if Dumbledore's hair dances in the wind when he finally goes off to confront Grindelwald.

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go_back_chief December 6 2008, 21:02:24 UTC
With a hard blazing look!

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seductivedark December 6 2008, 23:13:31 UTC
I don't buy red hair dancing in the wind (with or without hard blazing looks) for either Ginny or Dumbledore. Red hair tends to be stiffer than the softly wafting blond hair one normally associates with the dancing bit.

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