Concepts in this books are good, but the author simply lacks skill and finesse to make them work for her. this is why all her other pseudos and stories failed and she had to go back to hp and write a whole prequel- that makes the hp verse have even less sense- its the only way she can make any money of writing. and what blows my mind is how many fans of her would defend her mediocre writing. she is simply NOT a good author, and her grammar is not always on point.
i also agree with the friendship-point of the trio you made: i never got why they would befriend hermione, or even for the matter why hermione would befriend them, it makes no sense; and never to mention that hermione comes across as one of the biggest mary sues ever.
but thank you for this amazing read through and the summery! this was really a nice travel to take with you- will you be doing the other books too, or have you enough after the first one? (because book 2 and even more book 4 is just a mess and all over the place)
she was also unbearably annoying- she knew everything better because she read it; but honestly life is not about reading but about doing, she for me was just not a good character: everybody had to accept she was right because she said so; only her opinions and her rules mattered, when people did not as she wanted she either put pressure on them via her friends or went to authorities; and everybody tried to tell her the fucking truth but she didn't listen, because of course she knows better... just urg
I agree with Oryx, Hermione had problems with finding herself in her new surrounding, so she did everything to grab attention of person who was supposed to symbolise everything she admires: Harry. Notice that in CoS she has crush on Lockhart, a guy whose public persona is that of brave guy who helps the helpless. Now that I think about it, Hr/R makes even less sense, because Ron is completely opposite of her type :/
I'm not sure if I'm going to do the whole series ( just thinking about reading HBP and DH fills me with dread), but around Friday I'll post the first chapter of CoS.
Yeah, I know that others have speculated that she clung to Ron because he was the first wizard who snubbed her...
Harry was promised to Ginny by authorial intent. If Hermione wanted to stay in the Inner Circle, she needed to marry into the Weasley family. Ron was definitely not her type. She couldn't look up to him the way she looked up to Harry and Lockhart so she couldn't respect him as a person, but she could control him.
If Hermione wanted to marry into the Weasley family as her passport into the wizarding world, Percy would have suited her personality better than Ron. A few things are wrong with that:
(1) Percy is sufficiently confident in his own intelligence and knowledge not to be more than mildly impressed with her intelligence and knowledge, and therefore would not polish her ego any more than she deserves (which isn’t nearly as much as she thinks she deserves
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Considering Hermione's type, either Bill or Charlie would be much better than Percy and Ron. The main problems with this are: a) they are waaaay too old for her in Rowling's mind, b) just like with Percy they don't have self-confidence problems so she couldn't bully them into submission.
As for #3 on your list, I think that Hermione would try to nag Percy into reconciling with his family, unless he could prove to her that what Dumbledor's vigilante group is doing is very suspicious/illegal. Even then I don't think that their relationship would survive, because as shown in DH Hermione clings tightly to image Albus created for himself.
We don’t know enough about Bill and Charlie as people to be able to say if either of them would have suited Hermione. And they’re only too old for her in Rowling’s strange and limited mind, not in the general thought of British/American culture. Indeed, for the male to be a few (but not too many!) years older than the female is considered ideal for a first marriage.
I didn't pick those two because I think they would suite her or something like that. I simply analysed how Hermione sees men around her and compared it with available Weasleys
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In my original comment I mentioned that Hermione might have wanted to marry into the Weasley family as her passport into the wizarding world. I mentioned Percy, you mentioned Bill and Charlie, so I was still focused entirely on her finding a Weasley to marry, not casting around for other possibilities.
Personally I think she should look elsewhere. In about ten or fifteen years she should find a nice muggle who’s at least as smart as she is. And at least as confident in his own intelligence as Severus Snape, so she can’t bully him.
So do I! Especially after she did some growing up. Unless Hermione changes her attitude toward muggles and grows up emotionally/mentally, I don't think she should be involved with a muggle. Even if Hermione lied in DH about her parents, it shows that Hermione thought about it enough to consider it to be a believable lie thus any relationship with non-magical person is bound to be very unbalanced in department of power dynamics.
I think JKR preferred people to date and marry within their own age group/grade level. Percy was too old. We're pretty much restricted by the author's preferences here. Percy might have been good for Hermione, given that he was four years older than Ron. She might have been able to look up to him with some sense of awe due to that. He also might have been able to gently guide her away from her Dumbledore worship, little by little, before his break with the family, while she would still be in with Ron and Harry and be able, at least I think so, of bringing reconciliation between the parties.
Another problem with Hermione dating Percy is that their dates wouldn't have been shown, and Ron would have had problems with her dating his 'stuffy' older brother. Ron's feelings would have influenced Harry, and the trio would have had a 'weak link' with Hermione. JMO.
I see another problem with Hermione dating Percy: Percy believes that Harry has a bad influence on Ron. And it's not that strange, after all, each time Ron does something insane like stealing flying car it's while he is with Harry. If Hermione dated Percy there would be a lot of auguring over Harry. I don't think that their relationship would survive this.
To have the trio mature and date outside their immediate circle would require looking beyond Harry's narrow viewpoint. JKR world building is very Harry centric and superficial. She doesn't bother to put that much thought into creating a complete world.
Percy is 4 school years and barely more than 3 calendar years older than Hermione. I think the age difference between them is less than between Bill and Fleur. But Rowling wouldn't consider pairing self-insert Hermione with Percy, whom Rowling doesn't appreciate enough.
this is why all her other pseudos and stories failed and she had to go back to hp and write a whole prequel- that makes the hp verse have even less sense- its the only way she can make any money of writing. and what blows my mind is how many fans of her would defend her mediocre writing. she is simply NOT a good author, and her grammar is not always on point.
i also agree with the friendship-point of the trio you made: i never got why they would befriend hermione, or even for the matter why hermione would befriend them, it makes no sense; and never to mention that hermione comes across as one of the biggest mary sues ever.
but thank you for this amazing read through and the summery! this was really a nice travel to take with you- will you be doing the other books too, or have you enough after the first one? (because book 2 and even more book 4 is just a mess and all over the place)
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Now that I think about it, Hr/R makes even less sense, because Ron is completely opposite of her type :/
I'm not sure if I'm going to do the whole series ( just thinking about reading HBP and DH fills me with dread), but around Friday I'll post the first chapter of CoS.
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Harry was promised to Ginny by authorial intent. If Hermione wanted to stay in the Inner Circle, she needed to marry into the Weasley family. Ron was definitely not her type. She couldn't look up to him the way she looked up to Harry and Lockhart so she couldn't respect him as a person, but she could control him.
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(1) Percy is sufficiently confident in his own intelligence and knowledge not to be more than mildly impressed with her intelligence and knowledge, and therefore would not polish her ego any more than she deserves (which isn’t nearly as much as she thinks she deserves ( ... )
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The main problems with this are: a) they are waaaay too old for her in Rowling's mind, b) just like with Percy they don't have self-confidence problems so she couldn't bully them into submission.
As for #3 on your list, I think that Hermione would try to nag Percy into reconciling with his family, unless he could prove to her that what Dumbledor's vigilante group is doing is very suspicious/illegal. Even then I don't think that their relationship would survive, because as shown in DH Hermione clings tightly to image Albus created for himself.
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Personally I think she should look elsewhere. In about ten or fifteen years she should find a nice muggle who’s at least as smart as she is. And at least as confident in his own intelligence as Severus Snape, so she can’t bully him.
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So do I! Especially after she did some growing up.
Unless Hermione changes her attitude toward muggles and grows up emotionally/mentally, I don't think she should be involved with a muggle. Even if Hermione lied in DH about her parents, it shows that Hermione thought about it enough to consider it to be a believable lie thus any relationship with non-magical person is bound to be very unbalanced in department of power dynamics.
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Another problem with Hermione dating Percy is that their dates wouldn't have been shown, and Ron would have had problems with her dating his 'stuffy' older brother. Ron's feelings would have influenced Harry, and the trio would have had a 'weak link' with Hermione. JMO.
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And it's not that strange, after all, each time Ron does something insane like stealing flying car it's while he is with Harry. If Hermione dated Percy there would be a lot of auguring over Harry. I don't think that their relationship would survive this.
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To have the trio mature and date outside their immediate circle would require looking beyond Harry's narrow viewpoint. JKR world building is very Harry centric and superficial. She doesn't bother to put that much thought into creating a complete world.
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