Seriously, I think we'd have to say "Alrady vetted."
But, you know, the fact is we never once see a child in Hogsmeade. Not one. You'd have expected to see a herd running around playing pickup Quidditch, or gawking after the big kids on the Hogwarts weekends, or a baby's crying heard through a window, but.. no. Not one, ever. Nor do we ever hear of any students claiming to have been raised there.
So maybe it's a retirement community, really...
(But who the hell would set up a refuge and not bring in the kids?)
The goblins... well, after all, Hogsmeade was originally created as a refuge for magicals against Muggles, right?
Oh my god, the thought of Albus doing Tom's Career Advice talk--the mind explodes. In my 'verse, it would be post-blackmail, too!
Of course, that Albus might have been Head of Slytherin was rather a post-script--the rest of the essay works without. Still, it's a fascinating one....
Re: Hogsmeadeoryx_leucoryxOctober 30 2014, 04:48:22 UTC
Re: kids from Hogsmeade - whitehound uses that as an explanation for the mysteriously vanishing Gryffindor girls and other characters that should be there but never get mentioned - in her view they go home after classes, so never get involved in things like the DA. Maybe the under-11 kids from Hogsmeade avoid the Hogwarts students. They prefer to go out when it is quiet and relatively safe, without hordes of big kids out to get the newest items from the joke shop.
Truthfully, it isn't even necessary for the Hogsmeade kids to hide for them to never be mentioned. Harry has such blinders on that he doesn't even know the name of a kid whom he has had in classes (of only roughly 20 kids - or 18 if there really are only 3 gryffindor girls) for 5 years.
It is just about as likely that Harry merely never notices any younger kids in Hogsmeade - or for that matter those 3 roomies of Hermione - as it is that they are hiding. IF he can ignore the existence of 1 classmate, then surely he can be oblivious to others as well?
Re: Hogsmeadeoryx_leucoryxOctober 30 2014, 05:02:56 UTC
Harry does notice some kids in Diagon Alley. Of course those are the kids that are admiring racing brooms, he might not have noticed the kids who were doing more boring stuff.
Wouldn't it be odd for 2 of Hermione's roommates to not join the DA when all the Gryffindors of their year did? (Well, except Seamus, but that was an issue.)
Re: Not joining the D.A.oryx_leucoryxOctober 30 2014, 15:41:58 UTC
Aha! Those were girls who would have wanted Hermione to think that some House other than Gryffindor was the 'best'. (Too bad Pansy, Susan and the rest met Hermione before them and gave her ideas... )
Re: Hogsmeadeterri_testingOctober 30 2014, 14:29:50 UTC
True, and when he notices the toddlers at the World Cup it's when they're doing something--blowing up a slug with Daddy's wand, racing on their toy brooms
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And younger kids are not interested in teenagers' plays. And Hogsmeade children know the village good enough not to have to be on the streets - surely they have their houses on trees and backyards that are much more interesting and where they can play much better than anywhere Hogwarts students can go and know
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This also brings up the question of why the only friend (mentioned) of the Twins is Lee Jordan (who seemingly disappeared later on), Are there only 3 boys in their dorm or do the other boys so dislike them that they avoid them outside the dorm room? Are they leary of the Twins' 'jokes'.
And are ALL the Gryffindor prefects so lackadaisical about the position that Harry never ever sees them DO anything (except for Percy and Hermione)
Twins and prefectsterri_testingNovember 19 2014, 16:32:05 UTC
Alas, I don't think we can conclude that definitively, although it's certainly suggestive.
Harry, however, is Oblivious-Boy--his Power of Love so blinds him to the people around him that in fifth year, he doesn't know the names (or in some cases, recognize) some of the kids in other houses he's been taking classes with for over four years, and in sixth year, he has to be introduced to a Gryffindor quidditch player a year older than him (Cormac).
So the fact that HARRY never noticed the twins having other friends, or noticed prefects doing anything, just means none of those older kids particularly took an interest in HIM.
And in fact, Harry had that cloak from first year, and that map from 3rd--it would be hard for a prefect to catch him in anything.
Back to the twins--it is notable that the only prefects we see trying to put a stop to their misbehavior are Percy (protesting the torture of the salamander) and Hermione (protesting the product-testing on firsties), and neither was at all effective.....
Re: Career Adviceoryx_leucoryxOctober 30 2014, 13:44:11 UTC
The talk would have been around Easter of 1943. We don't know when Tom started taking the basilisk out for walkies. But Myrtle's death was in June, so definitely after that talk (if it ever happened).
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But, you know, the fact is we never once see a child in Hogsmeade. Not one. You'd have expected to see a herd running around playing pickup Quidditch, or gawking after the big kids on the Hogwarts weekends, or a baby's crying heard through a window, but.. no. Not one, ever. Nor do we ever hear of any students claiming to have been raised there.
So maybe it's a retirement community, really...
(But who the hell would set up a refuge and not bring in the kids?)
The goblins... well, after all, Hogsmeade was originally created as a refuge for magicals against Muggles, right?
Oh my god, the thought of Albus doing Tom's Career Advice talk--the mind explodes. In my 'verse, it would be post-blackmail, too!
Of course, that Albus might have been Head of Slytherin was rather a post-script--the rest of the essay works without. Still, it's a fascinating one....
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It is just about as likely that Harry merely never notices any younger kids in Hogsmeade - or for that matter those 3 roomies of Hermione - as it is that they are hiding. IF he can ignore the existence of 1 classmate, then surely he can be oblivious to others as well?
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Wouldn't it be odd for 2 of Hermione's roommates to not join the DA when all the Gryffindors of their year did? (Well, except Seamus, but that was an issue.)
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If there is a dame school, that would be the default for your Neville's education. (Does he get to be Blackboard Monitor?)
Day students - also - none of them are on the Gryffindor Quidditch team, needing help with scheduling.
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And are ALL the Gryffindor prefects so lackadaisical about the position that Harry never ever sees them DO anything (except for Percy and Hermione)
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Harry, however, is Oblivious-Boy--his Power of Love so blinds him to the people around him that in fifth year, he doesn't know the names (or in some cases, recognize) some of the kids in other houses he's been taking classes with for over four years, and in sixth year, he has to be introduced to a Gryffindor quidditch player a year older than him (Cormac).
So the fact that HARRY never noticed the twins having other friends, or noticed prefects doing anything, just means none of those older kids particularly took an interest in HIM.
And in fact, Harry had that cloak from first year, and that map from 3rd--it would be hard for a prefect to catch him in anything.
Back to the twins--it is notable that the only prefects we see trying to put a stop to their misbehavior are Percy (protesting the torture of the salamander) and Hermione (protesting the product-testing on firsties), and neither was at all effective.....
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