Chapter Eleven -- The Bribe

Jan 18, 2008 13:16

oblivionhold said she couldn't do all three chapters, so I'm doing Chapter 11, erastes is doing Chapter 12, and oblivionhold is doing Chapter 13.

In which Harry reads the newspaper repeatedly, Lupin sounds like Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation, Harry advises Lupin on his love life, Kreacher plays "bad cop," and the illogic becomes overwhelming.

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gehayi January 19 2008, 04:42:57 UTC
So wow. Remus is such a horrible person because he apparently is keeping Tonks under the illusion that their marriage is worth something and apparently is trying to make it work to a certain degree (and who knows? Maybe it's cold feet. It doesn't seem like he got a chance to have that prior to the wedding), is trying to rid the world of an irrevocably evil person and is suffering pangs of guilt because after being exposed to a lifetime of prejudice and misinformation, he has a wife and a child and can put them in danger not only socially, but physically, not only from him, but probably anyone in the wizarding world who felt they could get away with killing them.

Exactly! Granted, I don't think that the marriage would work between Remus and Tonks as they have been warped into being in HBP and DH (though I'll consider that marriage between OotP Remus and OotP Tonks could have worked). But what the hell is wrong with Remus trying to defeat his world's ultimate evil and attempting to save the life of his wife and his child as well? At least he's making an effort, which is more than--oh, EVERYONE is doing?

But of course this is all to make the reunion between the lovers extra poignant because they're going to die soon after. *barf*

Well, we never see the reunion between the lovers. Or their deaths. So the poignancy never really occurs.

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octoberstorm January 19 2008, 04:54:44 UTC
Apparently everyone else considers fleeing for their lives in the manner of headless chickens, alternative mindless bitching/glorifying or thinking that running a radio program is totally what needs to be done to win a war.

And the people who applaud Harry for giving Remus the much needed smack down!

The deaths in this book just made my eyes roll. I was completely unmoved by every one. The ones that were supposedly the most tear-jerking just made me rub my eyes in despair. Dobby and Hedwig were pointless and mostly in there just for the melodrama. I mean, at least if it had SERVED A PURPOSE I wouldn't be so disgusted, but their deaths served even less than shooting a horse would in a western, and apparently that is off limits.

Don't even get me started on Peter's death. I'm sure you commiserate with me there. I wasn't looking for the kind of redemption that would have pleased me - apparently Rowling's Suethors were channeling her with the Omg He Was Born Pointless Ugly and Teh Ebil!1111!! but I was at least looking for some pay dirt with the wizard's debt and the silver hand. UGH.

I'm sure Rowling felt that this squabble before the birth of their child was meant to make the happiness around Teddy's birth and then the eventual death *~*dramatic*~* and sob-worthy, but what with the butchering of the characters and the off-screen death, I just turned the page.

That's even less than what I did for Dumbles' death, and Remus was my favorite character.

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guardians_song January 19 2008, 05:23:52 UTC
Everyone called that Peter's silver hand would be used for the purpose silver is SUPPOSED to be used for when you have a werewolf in the story - namely, a final fight between the last two surviving Marauders, one a selfish rat, one a wolf who's still loyal to his 'pack'... eh, overdramatic, but you get the point. X| Instead, she lets it be a total dud. BAH. It really, really sucks. *gags* Remus and Peter could have gotten perfectly good deaths at each others' hands, instead of utterly anticlimatic ones. :P

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octoberstorm January 19 2008, 05:32:35 UTC
Actually, I thought Peter might be able to regain something, but I don't really see his betrayal as being a selfish thing necessarily.

Having Peter save Harry from Fenrir and pay back the life debt AND use the silver hand would have been pretty cool. So of course it was abandoned for a pointless self-strangle.

It's actually really creepy how apparently one apparent stray from the "good" side, from Marietta to Peter to Remus and etc, marks you. Either you die pitifully or people can treat you like shit because hey! You're a traitor and therefore pure ebil. Unless you're one of the Trio, in which case it's just repetitive character development.

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guardians_song January 19 2008, 05:38:28 UTC
Having Peter save Harry from Fenrir and pay back the life debt AND use the silver hand would have been pretty cool.

OK, now THAT would have been COOL. :D ...I wish that had happened. *sigh* :P

It's actually really creepy how apparently one apparent stray from the "good" side, from Marietta to Peter to Remus and etc, marks you. Either you die pitifully or people can treat you like shit because hey! You're a traitor and therefore pure ebil. Unless you're one of the Trio, in which case it's just repetitive character development.

Except for Snape. Yes, he died, but he got redeemed... sort of... bah. I would have liked to see someone come back to the Light side who had been Dark for the span of the books (not like Kreacher or Snape, but genuinely DARK).

Ah well.

That's what fanfiction (and particularly the Sacrifices Arc) is for. :D *goes off to read through Freedom And Not Peace*

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octoberstorm January 19 2008, 05:43:56 UTC
Snape was only redeemed because he was in love with a Gryffindor! That's the only way to get redeemed for being sorted into Slytherin, because lurve conquers all!

And honestly, I dunno whether or not I'd say he got redeemed. All I could see is that apparently he didn't give a shit as to what happened to any of the muggleborns or the half-bloods - he was only against Voldemort because he offed poor Lily, and he apparently only helped Harry because of her memory, not because it was the good thing to do.

Totally stripping Snape of layers and layers and making him somewhat....blah. Somehow I feel if it had been evident from the beginning no one would have cared for Snape at all, even with him being played by Rickman.

I keep looking for some good fanfic that goes AU somewhere after OotP, but it seems like everyone wants to do EWE or canon compliant, and it disappoints me so much.

And ooh, link?

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gehayi January 19 2008, 05:46:12 UTC
What's EWE? Ending Without Epilogue?

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octoberstorm January 19 2008, 05:49:40 UTC
I suppose it could be that, but technically it's supposedly "Epilogue? What epilogue?" in the grain of "Plot? What plot?"

The only problem with doing that is that Snape (ostentatiously, but there's the no portrait, no body, no funeral, no death brigade), Remus, Tonks etc are ded as doornails, never mind all the idiocy of DH is still around even if all the horribly named children don't exist.

I really really feel bad for Scorpius. Draco must have gone mad. Who allows their child to be named Scorpius Hyperion??

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gehayi January 19 2008, 05:54:04 UTC
I'm pretty sure that the Hyperion part wasn't mentioned in the books, so I can cheerfully ignore it. I've been cheerfully ignoring her interviews for years. Cripes, Rowling can't even keep her canon straight in the books, never mind in interviews!

As for Scorpius's unfortunate first name, obviously Draco married a witch who was a Farscape fan.

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octoberstorm January 19 2008, 06:12:22 UTC
It wasn't, but I just wonder if that's her final attempt to get people to stop liking Draco. That and the balding. You would think that there'd be potions for that!

Never mind the books, my dear. She can't even keep track of a single fact about one of her main characters for FIFTY PAGES. I find that a new low.

Speaking of the interviews, is anyone else annoyed that apparently Harry is good enough to become an Auror at 17 and is roughly the same intelligence (or stupidity level, based on Suemione's need to do EVERYTHING for them) and Ron's relegated to being George's Fred replacement? Harry isn't qualified to tie his own shoes, let alone catch baddies.

Never mind the shudders that went through my mind when I realized that George married Fred's first girlfriend.

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smurasaki January 19 2008, 16:43:30 UTC
Speaking of the interviews, is anyone else annoyed that apparently Harry is good enough to become an Auror at 17

Despite the fact that if anyone defeats him ever, they will become the rightful owner of the Elder Wand. But I suppose JKR forgot about that technicality.

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guardians_song January 19 2008, 05:56:59 UTC
"The only problem with doing that is that Snape (ostentatiously, but there's the no portrait, no body, no funeral, no death brigade), Remus, Tonks etc are ded as doornails, never mind all the idiocy of DH is still around even if all the horribly named children don't exist."
All the Snapefen insist that he was dosed up on antivenin, and just waiting for Harry to wander off before he took off to go get an alternate identity. :P There's still the little issue of blood loss from the wounds themselves, but ah well...

Bah. Who says Tonks couldn't pull a Metamorphagus and transform herself into an apparently dead body? And in most canons, don't werewolves have increased healing ability? We could always grab from another canon, and decide that Remus healed from what would kill a human, but merely put HIM on the brink of death...

Basically, if they are not certified-as-dead by a trained Healer or a Deus Ex Machina (rebounding Elder Wand, anyone?), they're not dead. XDDDD

I think Scorpius Hyperion is a cool name! Then again, the poor kid who had to LIVE with it... XD Still, it's not the monstrosity that is Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore. DDDDDDD8

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octoberstorm January 19 2008, 06:16:20 UTC
Yes! But Albus was apparently adored from the moment he graced Hogwart's gates, while Scorpius is doomed to be Draco Jr to the world at large.

Those are all valid choices! And as a Snape fan myself, I enjoy seeing all the different ways they're keeping him alive.

But I just wish fandom would become more interested in doing AUs that branched off a bit more than just keeping someone alive. The world she's created is probably the most interesting thing about the books. Twisting that and adding a cohesive plot to the mix in order to create a good novel length...that's what I want to read! ;)

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guardians_song January 19 2008, 06:22:58 UTC
"Twisting that and adding a cohesive plot to the mix in order to create a good novel length...that's what I want to read! ;)"

Then you'll enjoy the Sacrifices Arc. :D

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jodel_from_aol February 1 2008, 00:39:35 UTC
Which in Ootp was Albus Wulfric Percival Brian Dumbledore. But who's keeping track...

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guardians_song January 19 2008, 05:52:21 UTC
That's why I said "Sort of... bah." :P

The Sacrifices Arc is AU from the beginning, but it's really good.

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/895946/Lightning_on_the_Wave

Read the series. It was all written pre-DH, so the Deus Ex Machinae Hallows are not present, Dumbledore really is a manipulative bastard to the core, Snape is NOT a woobie in love with Lily (and Lily ain't Saint Lily, either)... PLEASE READ. It takes so many AWFUL fandom cliches (Slytherin!Superpowerful!Harry, for one), and fashions them into something beautiful. Please read. :DDDDD

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