I can't believe I'm haunted by Asano Taeko even when I'm not watching her.
Seven eps into IS and I almost don't want to watch anymore, because it's becoming increasingly clear that my OTP isn't the OTP and WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO ME.
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Miwa is a creepy stalker dangerous to Haru, herself and basically everyone she comes across. She is convinced they're meant to be together because Haru just so happens to have a certain physical attribute? She could snap any second and kill Haru ("He can't look at anyone but me!")? She knows exactly what's best for Haru and he really should leave all his decisions in life to her? If she could, she'd creep into his house and watch him sleep at night if she could (you know she would, don't deny it)? She's Edward Cullen with ruffles. (Oh yes I went there.)
Only even worse (!!), because whenever she feels like she doesn't get all the attention she needs (Haru doesn't pick up his phone! Haru doesn't reply to her mails!) she does things like slit her wrists or disappear until Haru comes running after her. She sends Haru's crush's father a letter to make him pressure Haru to leave soccer boy. That's not love, that's creepy beyond belief. I'd gladly take a boring ( ... )
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As for everything else... you certainly aren't obligated to like her, but I think you're reading things into her behavior that aren't there. She didn't slit her wrists because of Haru. She slit her wrists because she's a lonely fucked-up teenager with this huge secret she doesn't know how to handle. She only figured it out, what, a year ago? And she hasn't had support from anyone. Her parents lied to her and ignored her, her only friends were creepy older guys at a bar. She was so desperate for affection and understanding that she changed schools to meet a stranger on the off-chance they would make a connection through being IS. That isn't psycho, that's just sad.
I definitely don't think she's dangerous. The worst thing she's done is send that letter, and if soccer boy's father wasn't a judgmental prick, that wouldn't have done any harm either.
(I'm not saying it was right, mind, it was a total breach of privacy and my reaction to it was "OH MIWA NO." But dangerous? Hardly ( ... )
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Second, I will answer properly, but it's really late, I'm tired and I can't think straight anymore. I'll do it first thing tomorrow, promise.
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Regarding Sousuke, I didn't mean to imply that Miwa is like Sousuke (I haven't even seen Last Friends), I just meant my feelings towards Miwa's fans are probably similar to yours towards Sousuke's. Or at least they were yesterday night. XD
She didn't slit her wrists because of Haru. She slit her wrists because she's a lonely fucked-up teenager with this huge secret she doesn't know how to handle.It's kind of hard to discuss this because this is a jdrama which means it's all about being pretty and dramatic, but come on, one slit over one wrist? That seems like the average teenage suicide attempt aimed less at dieing than at attention. It might not have been for Haru only, I'm sure ( ... )
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Again, that's not what I'm trying to say. I don't think a person is bad, is a lesser being for attempting suicide, successful or not. I said they're assholes (pardon my french), as in, people I don't like because they have certain character traits I don't agree with. Kinda like people who drive so close behind me I can't see their bumper anymore. It doesn't mean the person and all he does is condemnable, it just means that they do stuff I really can't stand.
In my opinion, suicide is egoistic. Whatever kind of problems a person has and whatever kind of pain they go through, I think that by killing themselves they inflict far more pain on others. I don't endorse that kind of behaviour.
I used to think like you too when I was young because I understood nothing about life and because i hadnt yet experienced depression and mental illness. Its easy to look at people who find life unbearable and say they are weak when they try to die but thats only something a person from a ( ... )
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I won't argue with that. That's the fun about dramas, books, movies etc., that not everyone interprets them the same. Miwa has done some stuff (and what exactly that is is written the above and below comment) that seriously goes against my personal beliefs and morals, and if your own beliefs and morals are different from mine and Miwa stays on the good side of them, so be it. Doesn't make either of us a better person.
believe it or not there are people like Miwa in the real world.
Truth be told I don't get you are trying to tell me with that.
"People like Miwa", you mean IS people with a lot of pressure from all sides? Teenagers who feel misunderstood? People who attempt suicide? People who are all three? Sure, why not? I don't think that Miwa or her situation is an overly artificial creation and no one would ever act like her. Did I say something to that effect?
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I don't exactly disagree with this - I can see it too - but I feel like we're miles apart when it comes to her motives. Does she actually, honestly want to die? I doubt it. But I don't think her problems can be boiled down to just wanting Haru's attention. (Did she even know Haru would rescue her? It's been awhile since I watched ep 3, but didn't Haru come to a dramatic realization in the middle of something else and rush off to Miwa's house while she was isolated and alone thanks to psycho mama?)
Even if you take her suicide attempt as nothing more than a cry for help, the fact that she was willing to slice her wrist open for a little attention means there are serious issues in that head of hers, way more than just wanting her crush to notice her, IMO. Again, I point my finger at her parents. Mom's a fucking nutcase, dad never spent time with her at all until her rendezvous with the razorblade. They ( ... )
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I agree wholeheartedly. She didn't do the wrist stunt for Haru only, it was mostly for her parents (I kinda keep forgetting her father...), but Haru probably was a factor (how big of a factor exactly... we could discuss for hours on end, but frankly I don't think my grasp on canon is firm enough to go into detail there). Even if he hadn't found her, he would have heard about it sooner or later and come rushing. And she has serious issues, no doubt there.
I agree with the rest of your comment, too, just the last part:
But you can't blame her for dad's reaction. She sent the letter and it was wrong, but her plan wouldn't have worked at all if dad hadn't been an interfering, secret-keeping homophobe. That burden is on him alone.I don't blame Miwa for dad's reaction. I don't blame the father either; from our perspective it might have been "the right thing to do" to let the kids date, but that's not how the world/Japan/fathers work ( ... )
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Someone else said this too, so I hope you don't mind if I c/p my answer:
She sought him out because of his IS, but she's said several times that she admires his strength and straightforwardness and the kind of person he is. She enjoys his company and spending time with him. He saved her from a suicide attempt! She likes him for plenty of reasons beyond "your junk kinda looks like my junk."
Adding to that, you can just tell that Miwa is happy around Haru. She beams, she bounces, she wants to share lunches and buy them friendship bracelets and take cellphone pics so they can be BFFs forever. I don't see her interest in him as creepy. When you're crushing on someone, it's natural that you want to learn everything about them.
Now, if you want to talk about how healthy their relationship is, that bit could definitely use some work. Miwa needs to drop out of Bella Swan classes and stop defining herself by the ( ... )
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As for Miwa's treatment of Haru and their friendship, I was wondering whether maybe she just doesn't know how to be friends. The stuff she does is so contrived, it looks like she just imitates what she has seen other people do. Maybe she doesn't consider Haru's interests because she just never thought of it. She really needs people to explain the world to her.
Ooooh, I really like your reasoning for Miwa's running from Haru's family. I hadn't thought about that. Very nice.
The fact that they're teenagers actually explains a lot, so.
Oh, and sorry for spamming your inbox and turning your sandbox into a mud pit above. Why do I keep doing stuff I feel the need to apologise to you for? XD
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