Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest
Saw Pirates of the Carribean at the midnight showing. There were a bunch of people dressed in pirate outfits, too.
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I liked it a LOT but I did think the first one was better.
I think the thing that makes this movie feel somewhat more chaotic is the fact that things aren't straightforward any more.
In the first POTC, all three of our main characters has a clear-cut goal: for Will it was to rescue Elizabeth. For Jack it was to get back the Pearl. Elizabeth didn't have any clear action-oriented goals as she was kidnapped and not went for adventuring voluntarily, but her emotional goal was very clear and could be summed up by: WillWillWillWillWill. But this isn't the case in DMC. Jack isn't as focused this time (he is all over the place). Elizabeth's emotional state isn't as clear either: her feelings are muddied by attraction to Jack. And Will? Yes, he still wants to rescue Elizabeth (if Queen Mary said that Calais was engraved on her heart, Elizabeth is engraved on Will's), but he also wants to rescue his father (Will has a huge rescuer complex, doesn't he?) and to wreak revenge on Davy Jones. More complicated.
Will is a lot more skilled and mature than when he first met Jack, which makes him a lot more formidable.
Agreed.
Of course, I think ultimately, all the characters are maturing and they have to learn certain things to be fully functional in the world: Jack has to learn that sometimes you just have to do the right thing. Elizabeth is growng out of the spoiled girl who like pirate stories that she started POTC as. And Will needs to see the world as a lot more complicated and less black and white (this might be the source ofuncompromising heroics, but it also is a bad thing for real world) and learn that human idols are a bad thing and people are messy creatures, something he was also in the process of learning.
I don't think he'd be quite as mature acting about it as Norrington originally was.
Yes, and he is a lot crazier about her than Norrington ever was. And once thing Will can't abide is betrayal and I think that is what he ultimately would see Elizabeth's actions as.
Will is obviously the swashbuckling Errol Flynn substitute. I've seen critics get all over him because he plays the part too earnest, but I think that's part of his appeal to me. Will IS wide eyed and naive more than the others. Jack is the realist of the bunch and I also like him because of that.
I agree on the earnestness as part of the appeal. Will IS the idealist of the bunch, and no matter how experienced he will become, there is a certain absolutist right/wrong thing in him that Elizabeth and Jack don't have. He doesn't have oodles of fun swashbuckling and/or breaking the law. He is very very good at it, but for him, it's all about the goal (freeing Elizabeth, his father, whatever). Jack enjoys the process more than the goal, and Elizabeth, goal oriented or not, is prone to stopping or enjoying detours.
Actually, since I compare everything else to everything else, in Star Wars terms, Jack=Han, Will=Luke and Elizabeth=Leia. Only here Luke who is not related is all set to get the girl. Also, Will is faintly Sammyish :P
Had my wedding night with Orlando been cancelled I would be understandably moody myself.
Forget moody. I'd be using a machete. Actually I love Elizabeth herself making a reference to her being pissed off, when she points thr gun at the bad guy and he says she has to offer something more as part of the consideration balance. She tells him "you might add to it that I had to forego my wedding night" :P Especially, since while I can see Elizabeth's views on it being a bit more flexible, Will strikes me as someone who'd insist on waiting until they are married :)
H/C and hotness all at once. EEEEeeeeeeee!
Exactly. I got temporarily derailed from watching :P
Hotter than he was in KoH? Because I thought that was his hottest moment, probably because that was his best acting and deepest character.
You are right, he was probably hotter in KoH. But here he ame damn close. He is getting more attractive as he gets older, just like Jensen.
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There's also the original issues Will had thinking he wasn't good enough for her.
Jack enjoys the process more than the goal, and Elizabeth, goal oriented or not, is prone to stopping or enjoying detours.
Which is why it's totally believable that Elizabeth would be at least a little attracted to Jack. Jack offers a sense of freedom and adventure that Will, no matter how good his heart or how skilled at killing things, never will. Elizabeth has to look forward to settling down and being an upstanding citizen, which would be fine for anyone other than Elizabeth. Will's sense of black and white and his general goodness and naivety can be trying for an adventurous girl.
Especially, since while I can see Elizabeth's views on it being a bit more flexible, Will strikes me as someone who'd insist on waiting until they are married
No, Will definitely wouldn't have tarnished his idol of Elizabeth or even dreamed of it, really.
He is getting more attractive as he gets older, just like Jensen.
Some guys just age elegantly. Jensen and Orlando both are. They've seemed to fill out and become a lot more overtly masculine than they were when they were younger. They're about the same age which is probably why it seems to noticable about the same time with them. Jared still looks boyish in comparison to his co-star.
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True. He is sensitive on that issue. Of course, Jack's a pirate so he is even less suitable, but Will's insecurities will definitely make everything worse (he wasn't insecure any more in DMC but the end of it kinda brought that crashing around his ears).
Will's sense of black and white and his general goodness and naivety can be trying for an adventurous girl.
Exactly. Plus, living up to being on a pedestal would probably get a bit trying. She is attracted to Jack with the wild and rule-breaking part of her. He fits something in her heart that even she isn't aware of: pure wanderlust. She enjoys outlawing, and he sense of morality is relative. Neither of those apply to Will.
No, Will definitely wouldn't have tarnished his idol of Elizabeth or even dreamed of it, really.
I have this image of Elizabeth being all for it and getting a bit frustrated with Will over that point :P
They've seemed to fill out and become a lot more overtly masculine than they were when they were younger.
Oh yes. They are a lot less boyish now. And since I prefer my men more masculine and less ornamental (but gorgeous in any event), that's definitely a plus.
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And the fact that while Jack sees her as an attractive woman, he treats her different from any man she's ever met. Jack is crude and bad and completely appealing to a girl who was forced to be a model of decency. She's no goddess to him and he treats her more as a functioning equal than someone to be handled with kid gloves. He's probably the first man she's met who's not trying to impress her or isn't wandering around pining after her.
Don't hurt that it's Johnny Depp, too.
He fits something in her heart that even she isn't aware of: pure wanderlust.
And you get the impression that she'd be completely happy just kicking off society and heading out on a ship. The thing is, I sort of see Will enjoying that too, only he has to live up to giving Elizabeth a good, respectable life. I see Will as a repressed wanderer.
I have this image of Elizabeth being all for it and getting a bit frustrated with Will over that point
I have images of her repeatedly trying to trap him in darkened rooms and getting pouty when Will obliviously goes about his day...
And since I prefer my men more masculine and less ornamental
Jensen and Orlando are becoming the best of both worlds, really. I think it's a certain hardness that's starting to come into their features and their bodies are finally catching up to look like a man in their prime instead of young boys.
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That's an interesting point. I wonder if, once he realizes she wants to wander, they can just go off adventuring together?
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