Downer Warning

Jul 10, 2005 19:30

Not many of you on my list have said anything about the London bombings. Maybe they're too distant to affect you. Maybe you're as unsurprised as I am ( Read more... )

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savesthejake July 11 2005, 03:03:34 UTC
its amazing to me that as I grew up all I ever heard was about how we lived in the greatest nation in the world. err, make that the history of the world. but it seems to me that we are making so many poor decisions now, that we are slowly turning every other nation out there against us. if we continue down the same road we are now, we cannot overcome, we will lose. what we need to do is change how we as americans handle difficult issues and only through those means can we hope to overcome all the instability that has been picking up pace as of late.

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criminalsmile July 11 2005, 07:08:48 UTC
europe will never do anything against us because their problem with us is based on their distaste of blood. and the countries that are creeping up on us don't give a shit about human rights or what we're doing in iraq except where it pertains to the weakening of our military strength.

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tngerinedream19 July 11 2005, 03:49:33 UTC
in one sense, i agree with your final statement;
in another, i fear that it is the type of attitude with which the statement is made that makes said statement it true.
everything is so cyclical. it's frightening. truly. i pray there is some way out of the madness.

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criminalsmile July 11 2005, 07:06:22 UTC
i'm willing to fight for a solution, i've just never been offered one.

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tngerinedream19 July 11 2005, 07:29:43 UTC
the point being we need to figure something out that works
if we don't do it ourselves, who will?

granted i don't feel qualified to come up with one, but if not me who... there's always someone else

i'm simply thinking aloud. i dunno.

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theeclectic July 11 2005, 06:42:45 UTC
The Israeli/Palestinian crisis is a culmination of many factors one being that of the Holocaust, another however also being the fact that Israel was under threat of attack from almost all neighboring Arab countries. Regardless of what our idiotic foreign policy is, I don't believe the United States breeds in our children the type of inbred hatred of other people like fundamental Islam does of Jews and non-Arabs. The London bombings should be a wakeup call to "developed" nations to perhaps start a new approach in dealing with terrorists and the places that breed this hatred instead of the tried and failing call to arms.

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criminalsmile July 11 2005, 07:05:55 UTC
i agree with you steve--our country doesn't engrain hatred in our children... yet.

and as far as an alternative to the call to arms philosophy, i'm all for advocating it if i actually heard a suggestion that made sense. granted a call to arms in the language of warfare we are used to is completely out of place now, but the systematic attempts to destroy terrorist cells is still a call to arms of sorts.

but neither will going to work entirely.

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theeclectic July 11 2005, 09:52:39 UTC
I don't think there is any problem with saying that the Jewish community has a large say in American politics. Thats how our republic works, large voting groups have electoral power, thats just how the system works. Nothing wrong, per se. I don't see how someone could be of the opinion that Israel shouldn't exist however. I think both Israel and Palestine have rights to existence, now whether that is possible or not is another question. But these two groups of people have been fighting since biblical times, so peace doesn't seem probable in the near future.

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criminalsmile July 11 2005, 16:00:55 UTC
that was frighteningly accurate.

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