It is so funny that you mentioned the Terminator. I find the whole paradox of that to be infuriating. So he comes back to save the mother, of the leader of the rebellion against the machines, but while he's saving her, he also knocks her up, and their son, becomes the leader of the rebellion against the machines. If him coming back is what caused this person to come into being and if he hadn't gone back this person wouldn't have existed, then wouldn't this person just never have existed in the first place and he would have never come back in the first place because there would have been no one to save? Gah! It's just.. mind-boggling. It drives me bonkers.
And THIS. Is why I try not to think about all of this wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff. Mind-bender. For sure.
Eh you're right I kind of agree about Alisha learning to be independent. But we don't really know how long it will be until Simon and her, in the present context, actually start to develop. However, I do feel it is possible for someone, Alisha even, to be in a relationship and not be defined by it. I don't really feel like either Curtis or Alisha were defined by their relationship to each other. The fact that Alisha was monogamous with him until Future Simon showed up, either physically or emotionally, was apparently a big step for her. I have a feeling that even though she seemed to have slept with a lot of people in the past, that being someone's girlfriend was actually something very new to Alisha.
I think next to Simon, Kelly is the one who really has the strongest hold on her powers. Even though it hasn't been expressly said in the show, she seems to be able to hone in on people to try and suss out what it is they're thinking -- rather than being unwillingly bombarded by their thoughts.
And that's another way in which Alisha draws the short stick in the "superpowers" department. She can't exactly learn anything about her "power" because she has refrained from using it all times due to its uncontrollable nature. So she's really the one least prepare to use her power, if in fact it is something that can be channeled for "good" rather than just to make her the target or perpetrator of rape. (UGH -- this still pisses me off so much!)
The Terminator is so mind-boggling! After twenty years, I think we all just gave up on figuring it out. The only thing that really makes me all confuzzled is: what is the original timeline? Is there one where John's father didn't meet Sarah? But then how is John there? Only way I could figure it is that there is a timeline where John isn't there. And when John's parents have sex and he's created, he pops into being and starts it all. That's the best way I can figure it.
Ever see the Butterfly Effect with Ashton Kutcher? Also mind-bendy but I like it. :-)
I want to know Simon and Alisha's original timeline if that is possible? Maybe one day they will show it to us.
I think it's possible to be in a relationship and not be defined by it. But Alisha has been defined by her power and well, she was a sexual being from day one. What I mean is for her to not be defined as only a sexual being. And maybe her lesson is to learn who she is when she's not the party girl, you know? I really liked that recently she was the one that said they had to stop the Video Game Man from killing people. She was right. It was only a matter of time before he turned on them. She's young but I sense she can be so much more. And that she wants to be. Everyone keeps telling her how beautiful she is but I think she wants to be more than just that.
Simon and Kelly definitely have the best hold on their powers. Other than Alisha staying away from men and not being touched, I'm not sure how she can use it. The men end up attacking her. Even when she takes charge and uses/rapes them, it's still a pretty destructive power. But some of the powers are. Like Ice Girl who got burned up. Maybe one can learn control? Like on The X-Men? Maybe Alisha can learn to distract or allure men but just a little, not so they want to attack her. Maybe she can learn to control men through sex.
I'm not sure. Because hell, maybe she was controlling men through sex before, you know? And well, it's not a good thing to rape or control people. I want to believe that she's meant for something bigger and better and this power was given to her to steer her away from focusing on her sexuality so much. But that seems unfair and like a punishment. Nathan has no such limitations, you know? And that boy could use some boundaries.
I like the show and I feel like they are going somewhere with all of this. I hope so! I haven't been this excited about a new show in a while. :-)
Maybe that was Nathan's wish. To do whatever he wanted to do and not have to face any consequences. To be able to get away with anything. I think that as long as Nathan lives to MOCK another day he will consider that "getting away with it." That's the only way I can figure that his power in any way relates back to his character.
I know! Me too! I am excited about this and about Lost Girl.
You sort of reminded me of lost girl when suggesting what Alisha could do with her power. The lead character in that, Bo, is a succubus and that's exactly what she does with her power. Only it's far more controlled and useful. She literally sucks energy from people when using it, so all of those people Alisha slept with without being able to control herself would have ended up dead. NOT SO GOOD. It isn't just sex with Bo, it's touch, but with touch, she has to actively engage her power and it's completely voluntary. Like in the first episode she touches the waitress' hand and persuades her to give them a free lunch. That kind of thing.
The thing with Nathan is he has that power and he's not completely happy with it. He had sex with a beautiful woman with no strings. When he found out who she really was he went back. He didn't have to. What did he want to say to Ruth? I wonder. But he could have just left and didn't. He made himself responsible for his brother. He didn't have to. He lived and his brother didn't but he wasn't happy that he got away. In an alternative timeline when he lived and the others died he wasn't happy about that, either. I think that he's a lot of mouth because he's scared and lonely and young. He wants to just live. But he's about to see that living the way you want isn't so fun when people around you that you care about die or get hurt. Ruth died, Jamie died, and I think he's hoping his friends don't die too.
Oh noes! New show! You are intriguing me with another new show! I see this is part of your master plan! This is your power; to talk so intriguingly about awesome female characters that your entire friendslist can't help but watch. And then leave long comments to you talking about it all. :-)
And THIS. Is why I try not to think about all of this wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff. Mind-bender. For sure.
Eh you're right I kind of agree about Alisha learning to be independent. But we don't really know how long it will be until Simon and her, in the present context, actually start to develop. However, I do feel it is possible for someone, Alisha even, to be in a relationship and not be defined by it. I don't really feel like either Curtis or Alisha were defined by their relationship to each other. The fact that Alisha was monogamous with him until Future Simon showed up, either physically or emotionally, was apparently a big step for her. I have a feeling that even though she seemed to have slept with a lot of people in the past, that being someone's girlfriend was actually something very new to Alisha.
I think next to Simon, Kelly is the one who really has the strongest hold on her powers. Even though it hasn't been expressly said in the show, she seems to be able to hone in on people to try and suss out what it is they're thinking -- rather than being unwillingly bombarded by their thoughts.
And that's another way in which Alisha draws the short stick in the "superpowers" department. She can't exactly learn anything about her "power" because she has refrained from using it all times due to its uncontrollable nature. So she's really the one least prepare to use her power, if in fact it is something that can be channeled for "good" rather than just to make her the target or perpetrator of rape. (UGH -- this still pisses me off so much!)
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Ever see the Butterfly Effect with Ashton Kutcher? Also mind-bendy but I like it. :-)
I want to know Simon and Alisha's original timeline if that is possible? Maybe one day they will show it to us.
I think it's possible to be in a relationship and not be defined by it. But Alisha has been defined by her power and well, she was a sexual being from day one. What I mean is for her to not be defined as only a sexual being. And maybe her lesson is to learn who she is when she's not the party girl, you know? I really liked that recently she was the one that said they had to stop the Video Game Man from killing people. She was right. It was only a matter of time before he turned on them. She's young but I sense she can be so much more. And that she wants to be. Everyone keeps telling her how beautiful she is but I think she wants to be more than just that.
Simon and Kelly definitely have the best hold on their powers. Other than Alisha staying away from men and not being touched, I'm not sure how she can use it. The men end up attacking her. Even when she takes charge and uses/rapes them, it's still a pretty destructive power. But some of the powers are. Like Ice Girl who got burned up. Maybe one can learn control? Like on The X-Men? Maybe Alisha can learn to distract or allure men but just a little, not so they want to attack her. Maybe she can learn to control men through sex.
I'm not sure. Because hell, maybe she was controlling men through sex before, you know? And well, it's not a good thing to rape or control people. I want to believe that she's meant for something bigger and better and this power was given to her to steer her away from focusing on her sexuality so much. But that seems unfair and like a punishment. Nathan has no such limitations, you know? And that boy could use some boundaries.
I like the show and I feel like they are going somewhere with all of this. I hope so! I haven't been this excited about a new show in a while. :-)
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I know! Me too! I am excited about this and about Lost Girl.
You sort of reminded me of lost girl when suggesting what Alisha could do with her power. The lead character in that, Bo, is a succubus and that's exactly what she does with her power. Only it's far more controlled and useful. She literally sucks energy from people when using it, so all of those people Alisha slept with without being able to control herself would have ended up dead. NOT SO GOOD. It isn't just sex with Bo, it's touch, but with touch, she has to actively engage her power and it's completely voluntary. Like in the first episode she touches the waitress' hand and persuades her to give them a free lunch. That kind of thing.
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Oh noes! New show! You are intriguing me with another new show! I see this is part of your master plan! This is your power; to talk so intriguingly about awesome female characters that your entire friendslist can't help but watch. And then leave long comments to you talking about it all. :-)
Use the power for good, Crickets! Hee.
*looks up Lost Girl on Wikipedia*
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And it links to another good recruiting post with picspam!:
http://sabrina-il.livejournal.com/1004424.html
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*g*
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