Here's a reason why I think Nathan (the real Nathan, not Sylar) might really come back.
I'm honestly shocked to hear that people think Nathan wouldn't be coming back. They're establishing the existence of souls by having Sylar haunt Matt, and I've never for one minute thought Heroes was meant to be a tragedy. Nathan's soul again finding a home, this time in Sylar's body, as the only kind of redemption Sylar could ever achieve seems purely inevitable to me.
That's a good thought, but how could Nathan's "soul", as you're saying, be inside Sylar's body? That's not Matt's power. All Sylar has is Nathan's memories. Memories do not necessarily make a soul, right? But you're making me think of a story idea I had, if Nathan's "soul" were really inside Sylar's body and it happened to get pushed out, maybe if Sylar's "soul" took his body back--where might it go next? I need a pen and a piece of paper. :)
P.S. I didn't forget about your Peter fic. I've just had bad bad really bad writer's block lately.
That's a good thought, but how could Nathan's "soul", as you're saying, be inside Sylar's body? That's not Matt's power
Neither is seeing the future or seeing the dead -- but Matt has done both. I think they have been clearly setting up Matt's power (and all telepathic powers) to be much wider than just reading thoughts for a while. This even goes back to Peter's S1 finale communication with Charles, after Charles died. Telepathy is apparently linked to communing with the dead in their universe.
P.S. I didn't forget about your Peter fic. I've just had bad bad really bad writer's block lately.
No problem. I've sort of been very distracted myself. too many new ideas, while I was trying to finish up an old fic. I hope I'll be able to get around to your Peter/Future!Peter/Nathan soon.
Yikes. I think I get you now. So what you're saying is that Sylar is the one who actually is dead? Like, Matt somehow caught Nathan's "soul" before it left the area and he put him in Sylar's body? Am I getting this right?
If so, then we're stuck with Nathan in Sylar's body forever? Not my favorite outcome. But...if Sylar really never "gets back in", and Nathan learns how to deal with his new body, then he really kind of would be Nathan, and then he'd be indestructible, and that would be okay, I guess. It's so frustrating, the not-knowing.
But isn't the premise of the show good vs. evil? No crazy Sylar vs. Peter action anymore? I don't know if I'd like that either.
So what you're saying is that Sylar is the one who actually is dead? Like, Matt somehow caught Nathan's "soul" before it left the area and he put him in Sylar's body? Am I getting this right?
I think they're both essentially in limbo. Sylar's soul is hitching a ride on Matt's body, haunting him, and Nathan's is in Sylar's body. I mean, if you have a universe with souls, they you can't have a walking, talking, thinking body that has no soul (without it being a zombie/vampire/etc). Therefore there has to be a soul in Sylar's body, and right now it looks like it's Nathan's.
But...if Sylar really never "gets back in", and Nathan learns how to deal with his new body, then he really kind of would be Nathan, and then he'd be indestructible, and that would be okay, I guess. If it's Nathan's soul, and Nathan's memories, and Nathan's brain... isn't that Nathan? They have said that the shape shifting power, the longer it's in use, makes the original person become more and more like the person they are shifted into. Biologically, if Nathan
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I'm honestly shocked to hear that people think Nathan wouldn't be coming back. They're establishing the existence of souls by having Sylar haunt Matt, and I've never for one minute thought Heroes was meant to be a tragedy. Nathan's soul again finding a home, this time in Sylar's body, as the only kind of redemption Sylar could ever achieve seems purely inevitable to me.
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P.S. I didn't forget about your Peter fic. I've just had bad bad really bad writer's block lately.
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Neither is seeing the future or seeing the dead -- but Matt has done both. I think they have been clearly setting up Matt's power (and all telepathic powers) to be much wider than just reading thoughts for a while. This even goes back to Peter's S1 finale communication with Charles, after Charles died. Telepathy is apparently linked to communing with the dead in their universe.
P.S. I didn't forget about your Peter fic. I've just had bad bad really bad writer's block lately.
No problem. I've sort of been very distracted myself. too many new ideas, while I was trying to finish up an old fic. I hope I'll be able to get around to your Peter/Future!Peter/Nathan soon.
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If so, then we're stuck with Nathan in Sylar's body forever? Not my favorite outcome. But...if Sylar really never "gets back in", and Nathan learns how to deal with his new body, then he really kind of would be Nathan, and then he'd be indestructible, and that would be okay, I guess. It's so frustrating, the not-knowing.
But isn't the premise of the show good vs. evil? No crazy Sylar vs. Peter action anymore? I don't know if I'd like that either.
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I think they're both essentially in limbo. Sylar's soul is hitching a ride on Matt's body, haunting him, and Nathan's is in Sylar's body. I mean, if you have a universe with souls, they you can't have a walking, talking, thinking body that has no soul (without it being a zombie/vampire/etc). Therefore there has to be a soul in Sylar's body, and right now it looks like it's Nathan's.
But...if Sylar really never "gets back in", and Nathan learns how to deal with his new body, then he really kind of would be Nathan, and then he'd be indestructible, and that would be okay, I guess. If it's Nathan's soul, and Nathan's memories, and Nathan's brain... isn't that Nathan? They have said that the shape shifting power, the longer it's in use, makes the original person become more and more like the person they are shifted into. Biologically, if Nathan ( ... )
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