Comments | convert_me: For the christians

larzmachine in convert_me

For the christians

Jun 23, 2004 03:03

Since just about every debate involving christianity devolves eventually into "well, they aren't REAL christians," just who ARE the Real Christians(TM)? When you claim any given group is, please provide biblical as well as concrete proof that can't be used against who you just said (with reversing if necessary) was the Real Deal ( Read more... )

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pturing June 23 2004, 05:00:20 UTC

this is simple enough of course...

the Real Christians just means 'us'
and Not the Real Christians just means 'them' a.k.a. the infidels a.k.a. people we dislike and/or disagree with and/or do not understand

if we try it in the sentence it works out...
"Catholics aren't us because they believe in the Pope as infallible" (and we dislike that and/or disagree with that and/or do not understand that)

another suggestion:
the Real Christians are dead; they were exterminated wherever they popped up

larzmachine June 23 2004, 21:03:29 UTC

Nice.

kali_kali June 23 2004, 05:45:33 UTC

I'm not Christian, but this is what I think ( ... )

larzmachine June 23 2004, 21:16:42 UTC

Nice disavowal. You realize this means there aren't more than a couple True Christians on the planet, right? :D

kali_kali June 23 2004, 21:30:57 UTC

No doubt about that. Very few indeed.

larzmachine June 23 2004, 22:19:46 UTC

Just checking.

jess_faraday June 23 2004, 08:01:06 UTC

The common denominator of all Christians is that we believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is the Messiah of Jewish prophecy.

Anyone who believes this is a "real Christian" in my book, and anyone who disagrees is not =P

I'm sure I don't have to tell you that this attitude abounds in other religions as well, with equally bloody results.

tcpip June 23 2004, 16:37:43 UTC

There are plenty of Xians who don't believe in the tripersonal concept of god. It is not a common denominator.

jess_faraday June 23 2004, 16:40:08 UTC

The common denominator is the idea of "Jesus the Savior who fulfills the messianic prophecy." Whether God is one or three or 42 is indeed an area of debate.

larzmachine June 23 2004, 21:15:21 UTC

That's two now that say pretty much "as long as you believe in the False Prophet, you're in." Thanks. So far my personal definition seems to be holding up.

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sharptenor June 23 2004, 08:09:29 UTC

Christian here, new to seeing the community, I'll be adding it after this post. Ok- some things to get straight ( ... )

larzmachine June 23 2004, 21:14:34 UTC

Meaning what? As long as you believe in the False Prophet, you're in?

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larzmachine June 23 2004, 21:04:09 UTC

They're also the oldest and largest sect still operating in any meaningful sense.

pturing June 24 2004, 04:37:14 UTC

didn't the Roman church decide what books were and were not in the book in the first place? Their traditions predate the book as we know it. Can we blame them for not bothering to include texts concerning every detail in the same volume?

also, have you checked the Catechism of the Catholic Church on those questions to see if it refers to a bible passage. For example, on confession, it no doubt refers to Jesus saying "what sins you forgive they are forgiven..."