"For sale: French rifle. Never fired, dropped once." -or- "Isabella is kind of a ho"

[control_group]

Hokay, so:
I have begun playing Civ 4. I've completed one game, am dominating a continent on Terra circa AD 1300 in another, and have taken a stab at multiplayer. It should not surprise anyone, then, that I am about to ramble on about Civ 4 for a bit. After all, I'm always thrilled to natter on about subjects of interest to no one but me.
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[assfingers]

First and foremost, I need to come up with a Civ4 icon. But that's only because I can't buy RAM from my desk (I'll be hitting up the tech store at lunch, I think). When I went back to single player, BTW, my speed was back to normal. Donno what that suggests, if anything.

I've already seen Turkish Empire mods. I'm sure that there will be loads more. Is this a new feature, modding? I thought it was.

After you had hyped the Civilopedia so much, I was surprised at how lame it was. Your description of the old one makes me a little annoyed that this NEW AND IMPROVED (theoretically) version is actually quite a bit lamer.

[control_group]

I should show you the Civ 3 Civilopedia some time, just so you can see it and hate the new one even more. The previous version was a fantastic information resource. Anything you needed to know about the game, you could find out there, and quickly. The new one is crap-and it's made worse by the fact that they clearly wrote the manual knowing that the real information is in the Civilopedia. So there's an awful lot of stuff they gloss over in the manual, but you can't find easily in the Civilopedia. I hates it.

Buying RAM is a good plan. I'm going to be home this evening, and I intend to play Civ 4 and watch football.

It might also help, incidentally, if we didn't play Terra/Huge/Epic. Your PC might have just been having a scope problem. If we went with Terra/Large/Normal, and only tossed in four other civs, we might have better luck.

Modding isn't a new feature, insofar as there were plenty of mods made for Civ 3. But Firaxis went out of its way with Civ 4 to make modding very, very easy. They implemented almost everything in XML or

[assfingers]

I have a relatively new Alienware PC, actually.

[abmann]

Civics have/had great potential. In Alpha Centauri, they were incredibly useful and had a dramatic effect on the game. They had so much impact that, if yuo had the right spread, you could win with a few civilizations in significantly fewer turns thath the game would otherwise allow. I think that Civ 4 made them less amazing and more a decent nudge in what ever area they affect

[abmann]

That wasn't supposed to be a response to _sterno_...

[control_group]

That could be part of the problem; I never played SMAC.

I'm calling them a net plus for the moment, but provisionally. We'll see how they work out.

But some of them just seem a bit crap. Slavery, for example. I can think of very few situations where swapping population for production might be a good idea.

Unfortunately, one of those situations doomed my burgeoning (two city, gaem-leading) French Empire yesterday: a sudden influx of seven barbarian axemen, when all I'd had to face previously was, at most, two barbarian warriors. On Epic, there was no chance for me to pump out enough units to save me once they all showed up pretty much simultaneously.

(Yes, this is my own fault for procrastinating military buildup until I finished the Pyramids)

dammit

[comkilserv]

do i really NEED another game that can swallow large portions of my life?

*deep breath*

Re: dammit

[control_group]

Yes.

Re: dammit

[comkilserv]

rats.

i was worried you'd say that.

oh well...i need to put that gig of ram to use SOMEHOW

i'll look into it this afternoon
if this turns out to be another matt-ian-fallout-tactics-fun situation we may be in trouble

big time

Re: dammit

[control_group]

If it helps, it's possible I can arrange a free copy of the game for you. Though they deserve your money, so you should buy it.

But just to tide you over, see.

[andamaroo]

I have to say based on my vast personal resevior of neither seeing or playing any civ4, I'm very very disappointed in the tech tree. It seems like total jerks.

[control_group]

You're no doubt correct.

Nowhere on the tech tree-nowhere-can you develop PTR.

There is a picture of Algore attached to the Internet world wonder, though.

[graye]

[_guy_incognito]

What about Babingatron?

[control_group]

WTF?

How in the hell can you call this post nonsense? I spent a not-insignificant amount of time writing this, I made several points that I consider valid, and provided the reasoning and rationale for my conclusions.

People responded to points I had made, giving their opinions and thoughts on them based on their own experiences.

If a reasoned post with knowledgable discussion qualifies as "nonsense" to you, I don't know where you've got your bar set, but it's too fucking high.

[assfingers]

it's one thing to call my posts nonsense (they are! hooray!) but come on now.

I'm not in the business of giving breaks to Mr Group, as he is a first rate jerk, but this was a quality post with quality discussion!

you may consider the subject matter to be nonsense, which is up to you, but every post on LJ that garners 50+ comments does not actually indicate that the post itself is worthless.