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Oct 31, 2006 16:55

Poll Senator Kerry's remarks

EDIT: CNN's coverage on this is shameful, it provides absolutely no context to the statement. MSNBC is somewhat better:The Massachusetts senator, who is considering another presidential run in 2008, had opened his speech at Pasadena City College with several one-liners, joking at one point that Bush had lived in Texas but now “lives in a state ( Read more... )

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kinkygiggles October 31 2006, 22:02:39 UTC
At first I thought the military people, but on second thought he meant Bush, but phrased it shittily.

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from_here_to October 31 2006, 22:26:46 UTC
Same here.

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nevermind6794 October 31 2006, 22:03:25 UTC
Are you going to post the whole thing?

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silentclarity October 31 2006, 22:05:28 UTC
The whole thing what?

I'm just posting the quote that's being thrown around.

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nevermind6794 October 31 2006, 22:06:23 UTC
There was some context that makes it clearer, I think. So "the whole thing" means "a little more of the speech."

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silentclarity October 31 2006, 22:09:54 UTC
Let me see if I can dig it up for ya. It's actually surprisingly hard to find, CNN's coverage basically just chops him off mid paragraph, leaves no context.

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leoff October 31 2006, 22:04:50 UTC
Sorry to say, but this is a redundant poll. Dems are going to say the armed forces whether they believe it or not, republicans are gonna say Bush whether they believe it or not.

You basically could have asked "Did John Kerry say something stupid?" or, even better, "Do you like John Kerry?" You'd get the same result.

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silentclarity October 31 2006, 22:07:32 UTC
Probably, but as sasha_davidovna said - at least this way I know who I don't have to take seriously. :D

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starkruzr October 31 2006, 23:02:36 UTC
I think you meant that, but backwards.

Even in context I thought it was about our armed forces, i.e. if you're too stupid to get an education, you should be able to get a nice job doing something vocational, but you can't because Bush is killing those jobs, so you have to go to Iraq.

I see how it was about Bush now, but it sounded AWFUL.

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moonchylde November 1 2006, 00:31:26 UTC
I think it was supposed to be snark, about Bush not being that bright and stuck in Iraq...

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silentclarity October 31 2006, 22:10:34 UTC
So you believe that John Kerry intended to call the men and women of the armed forces stupid?

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notmrgarrison October 31 2006, 22:42:56 UTC
It wouldn't be as bad as things he's said about them in the past.

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stealthpup November 1 2006, 19:18:27 UTC
Well, what makes more sense?
  1. ::joke about GWB::
    ::joke about GWB::
    ::joke about GWB::
    "Wow, are troops stupid!"
    ::joke about GWB::
  2. ::joke about GWB:: all the way through
I'd think the choice would be obvious.

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Some perspective hey_its_michael October 31 2006, 22:12:29 UTC
Kerry really screwed up his phrasing, and I can kind of understand where people get the idea that he meant the armed forces as his target, at first.

But, he has explained his target, and he admits it was mangled. You can tell the Republicans are desperate for something to use against Dems in general by the manner in which they are creaming their pants over this. I only hope f-face Karl Rove can't use this to do too much damage.

I still predict Dems taking over the House. Perhaps with a few seats fewer than they would have to begin with, but they should still be able to rope 15 seats.

The Senate, on the other hand...

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