Supernatural Meta -

[commodoresexual]

I'll preface this post by saying - Normal People, Continue On Your Business. This is fandom!discussion that I doubt you care about. I'm fine, life is fine, you can now move on down your friend's list and not worry about the Wren. This is for Supernatural fangirls and boys alone, so yeah

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[strangeandcharm]

I've got a total chin wobble goin' on right now.

*sniff*

[commodoresexual]

Aw sweetie! *HUGS*

[strangeandcharm]

I keep wondering what it is that draws me to Dean/Castiel, and why the moment 'Lazarus Rising' ended I felt as though the show had just slapped me round the face hard. And meta like this pretty much sums it up. Thank you.

[commodoresexual]

You know, I got the Same Feeling off of 'Lazarus Rising'. Like, 'I. Ah. What? Am I still watching Supernatural?'

[strangeandcharm]

That's exactly how I felt! The show didn't just pull the rug out from under our feet, it pulled the whole gosh-darned WORLD.

[commodoresexual]

DUDE. Yes! Like, 'Okay, here is my show, I missed my show, I love my brothers and their love and how they only get each other and BOBBY and WTFRuby, and Castiel? Eyes burning? Eh, probably a demon and oooo BARN and things BlOW UP and there's a ... really, really HOT DEMON except he's not a demon HE'S AN ANGEL AND HE PULLED DEAN FROM HELL!? Oh, and in five seconds he's got Dean pegged.

WTFBBQANGELS?'

And just like that, Kripke GOT ME again.

[strangeandcharm]

I second everything you wrote there, but I'd like to slightly change the ending to match what I was thinking:

"...oooo BARN and things BlOW UP and there's a ... hang on, that's John Constantine! What's John Constantine doing on my show! No, wait a minute, he's not Constantine... HOLY FUCK HE'S AN ANGEL SO THAT MEANS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE EPISODES, 'HOUSES OF THE HOLY', WAS A TOTAL RED HERRING AND ANGELS DO EXIST! Oh, and in five seconds he's gazing into Dean's eyes and wondering why he has no self-worth and OMG they are totally going to snog any minute now."

Yup. That pretty much sums up my reaction.

Also? I posted this in August 2007:

http://strangeandcharm.livejournal.com/8742.html

See how I was thinking thinky thoughts about angels all that time ago? *is proud* And that was probably my very, very first LJ post that wasn't fic. It troubled me that much.

[commodoresexual]

You know, I was thinking the SAME DAMNED THING at the time.

... actually I was kind of a schoolgirl-fanboyingSam about the whole thing? I was like 'OMG THERE WILL BE ANGELS ON MY SHOW SOMEDAY!! MAYBE THEY'LL HELP SAVE DEAN AND DEAN WILL BE LIKE IN WITH GOD!!' After two seasons of SamIsTheImportantOne I really wanted Dean to be like, YesButDeanIsTheWarriorOfGod. I did that ALL of the third season. ALL of it.

And then Dean went to Hell and I was like ... 'Damnit. Maybe there is no God in this mythos? Oh Show. OH DEAN. How will Sammy get you out of Hell?'

Then see above. Sadly I did NOT get the John Constantine thing until someone pointed it out? *is bad comic geek*

[strangeandcharm]

Apparently it even said in the script that Castiel had to be dressed like Constantine. How awesome is Kripke? \O/

Funny how you should say you were waiting for Dean to be the BigImportantOne after two seasons of Sam stealing all the limelight - I thought exactly the same thing. And yet if you mention that to some people they assume you hate Sam and that there's a whole Sam vs Dean undercurrent to the show, which there isn't at all. I love them BOTH, so, so much, and while I prefer Dean I still love Sam to death. Why do we have to choose sides, dammit?

And too many people are complaining about Show being all about Dean this year. Honestly, we're only half-done - who knows what will happen to Sam by the end? *pants in anticipation*

[commodoresexual]

Kripke is God. I'm almost sure of it.

Man ... that is just idiotic. I love Sam. I have often said that Sam is the soul of the show, where Dean is the heart, and you can't have one without the other. There's a reason why it's DeanandSam, after all. And you're so right - there is so much more than can be done with Sam! His continuing struggle with the darkness within, his ohGOD "relationship" with Ruby (who I know has her own motivations for helping him, that are getting mucked up in the awesomeness of Sam). His relationship with the ANGELS, for crissakes. I haven't seen Sam have faith like a rock for three seasons not to get some payoff here.

Dean vs Sam. Bah, stuff and nonsense. This show is about the Winchester brothers. Do not begrudge Dean his storyline, world. We've been waiting long enough for it.

...also moar Castiel please. Maybe talking with Sam. That would be awesome.

[strangeandcharm]

I have often said that Sam is the soul of the show, where Dean is the heart, and you can't have one without the other.I prefer to think of Sam as the brain of the show and Dean as the groin

[commodoresexual]

Damn you. DAMN YOOOOOOU. *shakes fist, Shatner style

[strangeandcharm]

It was the way Castiel used two hands that made me think, "Aww, these two really need a chat." It WAS almost like a blessing, you're right. I think Cas really wants to like Sam because Sam's important to Dean, and that was a little hint.

I have my OWN theories about that whole 'Dean liked torturing people' thing, because you don't deal out that much pain and enjoy it, and then come back and HATE YOURSELF that much without something else going on.

Pray share! I'm intrigued!

[commodoresexual]

Yeah, and he's just ... okay, seriously, that moment for me was a little hilarious. Castiel's all, 'how do I take your hand, oh that's how, ah, what do you say in situations like this? Right, right, thank him for not being evil anymore.' Like a really elderly aunt who asks what all the 'cool kids' are up to these days.

All right, they put Dean on the fast track to demon-world, right? Stuck him down in the worst part, tortured him and tore him apart, because they needed to break him. He's important to Heaven and they need to take him out. He's down in the depths. The Depths, of Hell.

... how the hell did Castiel find him? Seriously. They just didn't leave him out to be snatched. He wasn't just chilling somewhere having a hot dog and a soda and Castiel yoinked him up. Dean may have enjoyed Hell - but I think? I think he might have been praying the entire time to be saved, even when he thought he wouldn't be.

[strangeandcharm]

Awww, I think that's a really lovely idea! It's an idea that makes me want to go "Oh, Dean," too. Perhaps after everything he still managed that tiny, tiny ray of faith despite never having had any in the world above. And that would be very Dean, after all - hard on the outside, soft and mushy in the middle. Even in Hell, he had a heart.

I'm also intrigued that Castiel seemed to have pulled him out so easily - if he was no match for Alastair, how are we supposed to believe he was a match for all the demons of Hell?

Also? Castiel totally should've said "I'm the one who gripped you tight and yoinked you from Perdition."

[commodoresexual]

Even in Hell, he had a heart.

Exactly. How else, after all, could it continue to be broken?

See, there's the thing, he had to have been a match for Alastair, because he was all, 'And I take you out with Angel-fu - uhm - why isn't this ... working? Ohcrap.' Maybe he just didn't run across a demon of Alastair's calibur in Hell, or maybe he was thrown off by the Anna situation. Hell, maybe he was thrown off because Anna had her hand on Dean's mark and his mojo got all messed up. There's more going on with that, and I'm sure Kripke will let us know.

Eventually. The bastard.

Yoinked is a good word. They totally should have. If I get a free trip on-set I'll let them borrow my genius.