The ordination of women as Catholic priests will come one day

[susannah]

The ordination of women as priests in the Catholic Church will come one day. Already you can see the yearnings of women to be taken seriously in their sense of pastoral calling, to serve as female priests, to express voice that is not filtered by exclusively male primacy, and the pressures that build up on the male-dominated hierarchy. Just observe

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[arago_sama]

Sure, if they're schismatic.

Ordinatio sacerdotalis. Case closed. "Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church's divine constitution itself, in virtue of Our ministry of confirming the brethren. We declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful. "

[arago_sama]

Also, it in no way has to do with chromosomes or hormones or assumed right; it's ontological reality.

[xenaclone]

The early Celtic church in Britain [pre the Great Schism, therefore technically both Orthodox and catholic in the widest sense] ordained women to the priesthood and episcopate. Both Brigid of Ireland and Hilda of Whitby were mitred bishops. Then there's Theodora in [I think] Italy.

They may be now regarded as apostate, but they happened.

[martiancyclist]

Neither of their ordinations, if they happened, were anything remotely close to well-documented.

Undoubtedly, too, women have been ordained here and there throughout the history of the Church. That doesn't mean it's ever happened in accordance with Church policy.

[becoming_rachel]

There is literally no historical evidence that either of those women were "mitered bishops". St. Brigit , for example, was an Abbess, and Foundress of several monestaries. She was an extremely important early Christian figure, and therefore got melded into several forms of mythology. She also got mixed up with a pagan goddess form.

This is kind of what I mean by not giving women their due. In order to make her someone of importance, history has to make her "a mitered bishop". Isn't everything else she did important enough?

Her position as an Abbess was seen as similar to that of a Bishop, so modern-day feminists grasped on to that and claimed she gave this to her successors. She was not a Bishop of her time, but a greatly important Saint and Abbess.

[xenaclone]

/\ http://www.houseofnames.com/wiki/celtic-saints

http://www.crowdog.net/webdiv3/d3four.html

http://celticmonk.tripod.com/whoismael.html

http://prostatis.wordpress.com/about/

http://www.katolskvision.se/pages/artiklar/artikel31.html

[arago_sama]

What makes these reliable sources?

[muraven]

Abbots in the Middle Ages were sometimes allowed to use some of the insignia of a bishop (mitre, crozier, etc), without any implication of also having the jurisdictional authority of a bishop, so being mitred does not necessarily imply that they were bishops.