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malvino September 21 2007, 22:22:52 UTC
I don't even know you, but (assuming you've not lied on your profile) here are some you may have forgotten:

Jesus died for you, you have your faith, you are saved by grace.

You have life, in a wonderful world. You see unspeakable beauty ever day.

You're literate, and have had the opportunity to be educated. Millions of people don't get into their twenties, or ever go to school. Countless people in history have died without ever being able to express themselves, or develop the skills to look at the world around them critically.

You have travelled, extensively, you have seen more of the world than the vast majority of people will ever have the oportunity to see.

You have access to books and reading, many people through history have been denied this, you also have access to the interweb and all it contains.

You have found a partner, many never do, you got married and have a child, this is an incredible thing. You have parents you know, siblings and friends, you live in an age and a country where you can get medical help for your problems.

I could double this list just from a few sentances you've written about yourself, how many more blessings could you find for yourself if you stopped looking at what other people have and wanting that?

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chaeri September 21 2007, 22:26:12 UTC
i'm not sure that's what he/she needs right now. in fact, i AM sure condescending platitudes is NOT what he/she needs. btw, its that kind of response to real hurt that makes the world respond to christians the way they do - thanks for proving them right.

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malvino September 21 2007, 22:29:01 UTC
It's not condescending platitudes, all that dwelling on the bad does is to make it the central focus of your life and trap you into a self-sustaining cycle of negativity.

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chaeri September 21 2007, 22:47:13 UTC
not the point. when someone is that angry and hurting, all they need is someone to say "hey. its ok to hurt". all the "hey look at your blessings" is just putting a bandaid on a gushing wound, it doesn't help and actually irritates.

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malvino September 21 2007, 22:53:25 UTC
Then why post to a discussion group? I'm sure there are dozens of other places people can vent.

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osnadurtha September 21 2007, 22:55:46 UTC
*raises hand*

they both help! SO THERE.

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osnadurtha September 21 2007, 22:53:19 UTC
I didn't think whoever it was (sorry, I forgot, but you know who I'm talking to) was being condescending :) so dunt worry :)

It's kind of hard not to dwell on the bad ones when they're there... and I don't always do that. It's just that one day I said - HEY WTF?

I just want a reassssssssssssssssssssssssson :(

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osnadurtha September 21 2007, 22:40:03 UTC
All I want is to he pain free :(

- abusive parents (I have no choice but to see them now and again because my brother still lives with them... my sister is away at school now, so that's a step forward at least - I can see her there), so I have to see them - I can't NOT talk to my brother anymore :( Why can't God just get him a place for himself? He could come live with us, but we have no room :(

- Beat cervical cancer (parents didn't help - they didn't want to), now I have pre-skin cancer which I'm trying to suppress, but it doesn't seem to be helping :(

- I was diagnosed earlier this year with myoclonic epilepsy (which isn't as bad as other types of epilepsy, I'm grateful for that, but it's hard to live not knowing if I'm going to be vertigo-ey or not - I'm too scared to even drive most of the time, because I can get myself and my daughter seriously hurt), amongst other things (falling asleep without being able to control it - which is scary since I'm home with my daughter - what if she gets hurt and I'm out and can't get up?)

- I have Asperger's Syndrome (which isn't too bad, but it's still a bummer)

- I've been raped twice

- My body constantly hurts, and no one seems to know what's wrong... I do have bad arthritic knees (sometimes it's hard to even stand up), but the rest of my body hurts too - all the time... no one (so far, I think after 20+ doctors I don't know if I can do it again) seems to know what's wrong with me...

and more...

how many more blessings could you find for yourself if you stopped looking at what other people have and wanting that?

All I want is to be pain free... I want all this pain GONE. I want to be healthy for once :( Why am I always sick? It's always something else - always, always, always.

Some people have it waaaay harder than I do, of course. I'm not even saying I have it the absolute hardest - but that doesn't mean I'm not angry at Him :(

Didn't even Jesus complain to God?

I know I'm irrational, oh I do know that, but how can I not get angry now?

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uberreiniger September 21 2007, 22:53:20 UTC
I know we don't talk much, but I find you to be a blessing to me whenever I read your comments. You are someone who helps me see the glory of God. Strange words coming from someone whom you barely know, I understand, but it's the honest truth.

There is a great deal of evil in the world, strangling it, wanting to shut off every crack through which light can enter. It makes sense that you would face great suffering and terrible pain. But I believe God wants to help you, that He's fighting for you even now. It's okay to be angry with Him. He wouldn't have taken all the anger and pain of the world onto Himself if it wasn't.

You're going to survive and you're going to be free. I just really fee convicted to say that for some reason. I don't know why, I just do.

If I can help you in any way, just let me know.

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osnadurtha September 21 2007, 22:59:41 UTC
Ooh I love you :)

Maybe I'm a yeller? Maybe I'm supposed to go outside and yell about things? ( I wouldn't mind that, honestly)

I feel better, thank you :)

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uberreiniger September 21 2007, 23:24:19 UTC
You go out and yell just as loud as you can :)

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osnadurtha September 21 2007, 23:36:18 UTC
*goes outside*

"lISTEN UP! Yeah, God, I'm talking to you! I'm MADDDDDD! I've had it, so cut it out, K? Thxbai."

God: "NO"

"Same time tomorrow?"

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osnadurtha September 21 2007, 23:36:49 UTC
I"m sorry, that lousy html was my fault - God probably has perfect htmling skills :)

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uberreiniger September 22 2007, 05:01:15 UTC
I can't speak for His htmling, but his data recover is flawless. You know, because Jesus saves.

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chaeri September 21 2007, 22:54:04 UTC
oh that's horrible. of course you are angry - especially about the rapes. i hate men who do that - they deserve to be castrated with dull knives. practical help: have you seen a doctor about that? just to be sure for pregnancy and/or STDs? did you press charges or have you talked to a victim's advocate?

as far as constant pain: would it help to keep a pain diary so that doctors can see a pattern possibly? where is it localized?

if you are interest in help, i very gently suggest celebrate recovery. its a christian recovery group for anyone.

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osnadurtha September 21 2007, 23:03:06 UTC
have you seen a doctor about that? just to be sure for pregnancy and/or STDs? did you press charges or have you talked to a victim's advocate?

Hell yes! It was someone I was going out with, it was all fine and dandy till he did a 360 on me :( But! I pressed charges, he had jail time, and he got deportation!

I'm keeping a medical diary sort of. One is for epilepsy, one is for this, one for that - and it helps them a bit but so far no luck :(

Celebrate recovery *writes down* thanks :)

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