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Oct 09, 2004 15:37

Last night i saw Ladder 49 with Tracie, Vic, Chani, John V, and some friend of Johns named Tom...it was deffinitely one of the saddest movies i've seen! :(. i didn't think it would have such a sad ending, but thats one of the rare times i've actually cried during a movie (in theaters at least). then today i went shoppin with syd and mer and we saw ( Read more... )

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are you saying i'm uninformed? anonymous October 19 2004, 02:56:59 UTC
bush's iraq plans=keep troops in as long as needed to set up an interim government, though how long that will take, it's hard to say, seeing as we can't completely kill ALL terrorists
stem-cell research=he passed a ban on federal funding of new stem cell research lines. this means that scientists and doctors cannot commence any new lines of research.

now, about kerry being 'wishy-washy'... aka, changing his mind about the iraq war? i'm sorry, this is possibly THE WORST argument i have ever heard. i don't see how people cannot comprehend how someone can be against something (the war) and totally not want to go into it, but then say that we need to finish it. if you are forced into something, you might as well do it right. maybe some people have a piss-poor work ethic, but if someone else makes a decision that greatly affects you, and you don't have a choice in the matter, you might as well do a damn good job of finishing it up. that's all kerry is saying, that although he might not have wanted to go to war with iraq in the first place, he wants to do a good job finishing it up; he's not just going to abandon everything if he becomes president, because obviously the public would not support that.
i don't know how i am going to vote in the upcoming election. however, i do know that it is something that i have to research, reading up on the candidates and such, rather than just blindly accepting facts that the government, or parents, or friends, give me. and i know that i want to vote for a president who has the best interests of the people in mind, not merely the top 10% on the socioeconomic scale.

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? anonymous October 19 2004, 03:46:56 UTC
YOU TELL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!! he should think before talking, because you, unlike him, have wide knowedge in that sort of thing since you have taken many various classes in such subjects as law and society and politics and are much more educated on such issues...shows how much republicans don't care much about who's running as long as they get what they wan't...

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? binarypunisher October 19 2004, 04:11:23 UTC
They arent terrorists, they are insurgents, theres a differince.
Bush isnt for banning stem cell research, hes against funding it. Theres a differince.

Kerry has said:
"We should not have gone to war knowing the information that we know today," - Good Morning America (Sep. 29 04 if I remember right)

"I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq ..." - Speech To The 2002 DLC National Conversation, New York, NY, 7/29/02

"George, I said at the time I would have preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity, but I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the President made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." (ABC News Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate, Columbia, SC, 5/3/03)

I hate to sound arrogant, but im sure I know far more about politics than either of you.
Ill ignore the jibe about republicans not caring, and just hope you someday take a decent history class.

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? anonymous October 19 2004, 23:16:24 UTC
actually that wasn't claire...and you should deffinitely not make random assumptions about people that you don't know especially when they could be sophomores in college and have most deffinitely taken MANY more politics classes than you and AP classes since Holy Names offers way more than Blanchet does...and also...just because you can copy and paste Kerry's thoughts from cites, that doesn't mean you know anything about them...at least a lot of myf riends who are democrats can talk about Bush without having to copy and paste anything.

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? gnosis_of_eris October 20 2004, 00:30:36 UTC
Pah, using school as your only source of education is pathetic. School is hardly an objective education (especially in the Seattle area where most people are extremely liberal. Let's not even go into how biased college classes are). One may have a long portfolio of AP classes with honors on a particular subject, but they can also know nothing if they have not learned both arguments. Am I saying that school is unnecessary? Not in the very least, but I also do not believe that school should be your only source of education.

And Brian's (binarypunsisher) points on John Kerry's positions still hold significant ground. So far, I have yet to hear a decent case that John Kerry is not a flip-flopper.

"Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it's the right authority for a president to have. But I would have used that authority as I have said throughout this campaign, effectively."
August 9, 2004

Now contrast that to his September 29th remark. The reason why your friends need not copy and paste Bush's quotes to understand his opinion is because he is consistent. Meanwhile, Kerry's rhetoric, and I dare say, opinion on issues is malleable.

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? binarypunisher October 20 2004, 05:07:07 UTC
You could be a sophomore in college, but i doubt it. Your spelling is bad and capitalization is nonexistant.

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? anonymous October 23 2004, 20:10:09 UTC
I am not the one who spelled things wrong, that would be you. And I don't use upper case when I type online because that's just how I do it. So you worry about your typing and spelling, and I'll worry about mine.

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? binarypunisher October 23 2004, 21:51:08 UTC
You have spelled things wrong? Want me to elaborate?

knowledge*
wasn't*

And not using upper case I can understand, it just makes you look stupid.

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? anonymous October 28 2004, 19:40:18 UTC
however, you have failed to realize that that wasn't me who was typing that. sorry hunnie, get your facts strait before you criticize...

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? anonymous October 28 2004, 19:42:06 UTC
however, you have failed to realize that that wasn't me who was typing that. sorry hunnie, get your facts straight before you criticize...

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? anonymous October 28 2004, 19:42:56 UTC
however, you have failed to realize that it wasn't me who was typing that. sorry hunnie, get your facts straight before you criticize...

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? anonymous October 23 2004, 20:07:53 UTC
oh hunnie. i have taken far more poli sci and history classes than you, and i'm sure they are far better than any you may have taken. so don't worry about it. and bush did ban the expansion of stem cell research. and i know the difference between terrorists and insurgents. and i know how to spell difference

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Re: are you saying i'm uninformed? binarypunisher October 23 2004, 21:56:15 UTC
How did he ban the expansion of stem cell research? He is actually the first president to ever fund stem cell research.

You can take poli-sci and history classes, but that doesnt mean you know anything about them.

So whats the differince between insurgents and terrorists?

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