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[catgirlpink]

Some days I can't help thinking about things, and I become overwhelmed by how much I hate this world. I hate the things that are allowed to go on in it. I wish I was a being with the capacity to punish people when they insist on hurting and damaging, and no one can do anything about it. I wish I could help people when no one else will, when no

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[zeussimeoni]

oh, I also wanted to mention complete agreement on the overall theme of the post. And that is... people should know what the hell they've done to people

[catgirlpink]

If their idea of protecting children is to take them away from a perfectly healthy, loving parent and give them to "trailer trash", sexually abusive smokers, then they should commit suicide. Do the world a favor. Children everywhere would be so much safer.

[ichijoji_chan]

This stuff just doesn't add up.
What's missing from this data?
What were you (Zeus) accused of, and what was the evidence?
And if suspicion is enough to get the kids taken away from you, why isn't it enough to get them taken away from their foster parents?
Also, is there actual evidence of sexual abuse? Can you demand a medical examination of the kids? I really know nothing of this area.
It probably comes down to money, everything does.
My parents were horrible parents, but they had jobs and therefore enough money to keep a roof over our heads and a variety of pasta shapes on our table, and so we were never taken away. Mom would say "Do you want to be taken away?" Or "Do you want DHS to take you away?" We didn't even know what DHS was, but it kept us quiet.

[zeussimeoni]

1). What was I accused of? It depends on what day you're talking about. Firstly, I was accused of frightening a friend of mine. He had betrayed me and almost everyone I knew. Aaron had decided that having an affair with my mentally unstable wife was more important than my friendship of several years, or the friendship of anyone that I knew. So I went over to talk to him about it. Nothing dangerous happened fortunately, but he got scared so DHHS was called as revenge (most likely he didn't like actually being held accountable for his actions). Whether it was him, or decha, I have no idea. Doesn't really matter. It was a revenge call, and it had nothing to do with the children

[zeussimeoni]

2) if the evidence is good enough for me, why not for removing them from the foster parents

[ichijoji_chan]

They're cute kids. :)
I agree with Patrick; can you get a lawyer? Ask Pine Tree, they help poor people.
Do you have a job right now? That could be a factor in their choice.
Statistically, 50% of foster kids are returned to their parents.
Covering a kid's mouth is not the best way to deal with a tantrum. In fact, it is best to avoid any sort of physical punishment. Try ignoring the tantrum or placing the kid in time out. What's important is NEVER to reward a tantrum that has already started, ever. Even a small chance of reward greatly encourages behavior. Try to avoid the tantrums in the first place by making sure all needs are met, thirst, hunger, being too hot or cold, tight clothes, etc, can set off tantrums. Reward the kid when he is well behaved.

If not knowing enough about kids were justification for having them taken away, very few people would have kids. But perhaps if you placate their concerns by offering to take a class or something? Do they themselves offer classes? That would make them money, they'd love that.

[zeussimeoni]

Ah.. you are offering solutions. Not what they're looking for. You're thinking logically... try thinking "witch hunt" instead

[ichijoji_chan]

The fact that they pay for it indicates it probably DOES make them money

[catgirlpink]

"It pays to keep people in the system, not to help them get out."

Too true. What a hellish system we have here.
I wonder how many people know that they're lying by saying they're helping anyone, and how many people are stupid enough to believe they actually are helping.

Stupid people who hurt you because they think it's helping are dangerous.
Too bad we're stuck with them. *sigh*

[ichijoji_chan]

Is this just a bitch fest, or are you actually interested in trying to find solutions and get your kid's back?
I advise you to take the classes, sit and listen like everyone else and do as DHS wants you to. If they aren't going to listen to the experts you hirer, than you have to meet the approval of the ones that they hirer. Figure out what they want to hear and see and give them that.
You claim to be an expert on kids, but what proof do you have of that? A degree? Frankly, I'm shocked anyone could earn a degree in any child or behavior related field and still think that physically covering a child's mouth is the best way to to deal with tantrum behavior.

[catgirlpink]

Hm? That was me. And yes, I was bitching.

It does not matter what is done, DHS does not care. They only do whatever they can think of to block every effort, no matter how illogical. Everything with them is the equivalent of "Because I said so." [They could make a Star Trek android explode..Zeus has agreed to and done everything they've asked, but they just don't care. He sits in parenting classes, he goes to a psychologist. The psychologist has called him no threat, but DHS won't listen. Even agreeing to all their terms isn't good enough for them. They have set it up so there's no way to win

[catgirlpink]

Oh, and yeah, the experts are all hired by DHS. None of them are hired by Zeus. DHS won't even listen to the guy they have to pay, because he's not saying what they want him to.