Supernatural, 513, The Song Remains the Same
My thoughts on 'The Song Remains the Same.' Slightly incoherent, which kind of works with this episode.
Cas I have missed you and I'm so glad you're back!
Anna, I've missed you too and I'm hoping they don't kill you. We've confirmed what Bible Camp was like though.
"Sam is my friend." Yay. :D
Sigh. I think Cas is gonna spend the whole of the episode in that motel room.
I love Past!John. He's so lovely and polite. Even more obviously Sam = John, Dean = Mary.
Okay, this is so Terminator.
Please don't forget Mary's 'The Angel's are watching over you' line. Please!
Oh this' interesting. I didn't think John knew until after Mary died. Not sure it was ever confirmed either way though.
John's a Vietnam Vet Dean. A little human blood isn't going to bother him. Just because he happens to be a nice guy doesn't make him squeamish. Also, John sees them all grown up. Surely that's going to be WTF for him later on? "Who the hell does that to a kid?" Good question John. Good question.
This' really interesting. I think that Sam has forgiven him but Dean has learnt to hate John for what he did. I mean, I always suspected it to be true but still. Awesome. Sam has really, really learned to justify things. It explains all of last season with Ruby and now with John.
Uriel! I've missed you dude. I liked your old vessel a little more though. More badass.
Okay, not sure this' a great idea Dean. Badbadbadbadbad.
How are they going to fix this? Can't do this. Wow. Okay. Let's sentence ourselves to non-existence! I repeat: wow. They really, really hate their lives don't they? Remarkable how much, really.
She's pregnant. There we go. Knew it.
I miss Cass.
Robert Wisdom, you will always be my Uriel!
Michael!!!
...How does John not end up a vegetable?
I knew it! I knew there was an ancestral thing of some sort going on.
Okay, so Michael and Lucifer are Dean and Sam. We get it.
"Because I am a good son." WE GET IT!
"What makes you think you get to choose?" <-- That seems to be what the last two seasons have all been about. Season 4 of Angel was all about that as well. Some things you can't change. Not to mention that Mary is a marked woman. I get the feeling that Azezel would find her wherever she went.
There we go. Michael doesn't leave them a vegetable. Interesting.
Cas you're back! ♥ I really wanted the 'angels are watching over you' thing to be about Cas. Oh well.
"It's okay baby. Angel's are watching over you." Don't you mean trying to kill you? She had NO indication that the Angel's were anything good. Even subconsciously, I don't see her thinking anything positive about them. Aggravating!
The verdict:
*Unsatisfied. This episode had the potential to be one of the best episodes they ever did but as soon John found out about 'monsters' -- and it was going to be a 'wipe their memories' type solution -- it pretty much ceased being possible for it to be as good as it could be.
*Michael could have saved this episode. He really could have. As much as I like the guy who plays young John, I don't think he was a good Michael. The thing about the actors who played Angel's -- mostly Misha Collins, Robert Wisdom and Mark Pellegrino -- played them with such grandiose that they never seemed human. They were very still as well. There was no excess of movement. I was so looking forward to Michael that maybe it was inevitable that I'd be disappointed. Still.
*'All these centuries...' Say it with me now: Millennia. Mil-len-nia. As in thousands, not hundreds. They've never talked about centuries in terms of Angels before. Always much longer periods of time. This annoys me. This episode really, really needed someone to go over it. It felt rushed, writing-wise.
*It would have been a higher quality episode if Anna had seemed more unhinged. I don't think that Heaven sent her to the past. That doesn't make sense. Unless Heaven is more divided than we thought. On a related note...
*ANOTHER woman more than likely dead. It bugs me that they're killing women off left and right. I realise that while Anna is an Angel and more than likely technically without gender, she's played by a woman and again ends up dead. Frustrating!
*In conclusion: from the beginning of this episode you knew where it was going. Things were going to end up exactly where they were at the beginning. No matter how much they may want to, Dean and Sam can't change the past. Cas said it way back in 403: You can't change destiny. All roads lead to the same destination.
I waited until I'd watched it for a second time to post this, in case the second viewing changed my mind. It didn't -- thought it was better on the second viewing, entertainment-wise.
Cas I have missed you and I'm so glad you're back!
Anna, I've missed you too and I'm hoping they don't kill you. We've confirmed what Bible Camp was like though.
"Sam is my friend." Yay. :D
Sigh. I think Cas is gonna spend the whole of the episode in that motel room.
I love Past!John. He's so lovely and polite. Even more obviously Sam = John, Dean = Mary.
Okay, this is so Terminator.
Please don't forget Mary's 'The Angel's are watching over you' line. Please!
Oh this' interesting. I didn't think John knew until after Mary died. Not sure it was ever confirmed either way though.
John's a Vietnam Vet Dean. A little human blood isn't going to bother him. Just because he happens to be a nice guy doesn't make him squeamish. Also, John sees them all grown up. Surely that's going to be WTF for him later on? "Who the hell does that to a kid?" Good question John. Good question.
This' really interesting. I think that Sam has forgiven him but Dean has learnt to hate John for what he did. I mean, I always suspected it to be true but still. Awesome. Sam has really, really learned to justify things. It explains all of last season with Ruby and now with John.
Uriel! I've missed you dude. I liked your old vessel a little more though. More badass.
Okay, not sure this' a great idea Dean. Badbadbadbadbad.
How are they going to fix this? Can't do this. Wow. Okay. Let's sentence ourselves to non-existence! I repeat: wow. They really, really hate their lives don't they? Remarkable how much, really.
She's pregnant. There we go. Knew it.
I miss Cass.
Robert Wisdom, you will always be my Uriel!
Michael!!!
...How does John not end up a vegetable?
I knew it! I knew there was an ancestral thing of some sort going on.
Okay, so Michael and Lucifer are Dean and Sam. We get it.
"Because I am a good son." WE GET IT!
"What makes you think you get to choose?" <-- That seems to be what the last two seasons have all been about. Season 4 of Angel was all about that as well. Some things you can't change. Not to mention that Mary is a marked woman. I get the feeling that Azezel would find her wherever she went.
There we go. Michael doesn't leave them a vegetable. Interesting.
Cas you're back! ♥ I really wanted the 'angels are watching over you' thing to be about Cas. Oh well.
"It's okay baby. Angel's are watching over you." Don't you mean trying to kill you? She had NO indication that the Angel's were anything good. Even subconsciously, I don't see her thinking anything positive about them. Aggravating!
The verdict:
*Unsatisfied. This episode had the potential to be one of the best episodes they ever did but as soon John found out about 'monsters' -- and it was going to be a 'wipe their memories' type solution -- it pretty much ceased being possible for it to be as good as it could be.
*Michael could have saved this episode. He really could have. As much as I like the guy who plays young John, I don't think he was a good Michael. The thing about the actors who played Angel's -- mostly Misha Collins, Robert Wisdom and Mark Pellegrino -- played them with such grandiose that they never seemed human. They were very still as well. There was no excess of movement. I was so looking forward to Michael that maybe it was inevitable that I'd be disappointed. Still.
*'All these centuries...' Say it with me now: Millennia. Mil-len-nia. As in thousands, not hundreds. They've never talked about centuries in terms of Angels before. Always much longer periods of time. This annoys me. This episode really, really needed someone to go over it. It felt rushed, writing-wise.
*It would have been a higher quality episode if Anna had seemed more unhinged. I don't think that Heaven sent her to the past. That doesn't make sense. Unless Heaven is more divided than we thought. On a related note...
*ANOTHER woman more than likely dead. It bugs me that they're killing women off left and right. I realise that while Anna is an Angel and more than likely technically without gender, she's played by a woman and again ends up dead. Frustrating!
*In conclusion: from the beginning of this episode you knew where it was going. Things were going to end up exactly where they were at the beginning. No matter how much they may want to, Dean and Sam can't change the past. Cas said it way back in 403: You can't change destiny. All roads lead to the same destination.
I waited until I'd watched it for a second time to post this, in case the second viewing changed my mind. It didn't -- thought it was better on the second viewing, entertainment-wise.