So Here's One Incontrovertable Benefit

Mar 12, 2013 16:40

There's one thing you can definitely say about the Paleo diet ( Read more... )

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louisedennis March 12 2013, 18:34:25 UTC
I'm already wincing at the expense. These days, I generally reckon decent steaks for the family mean beans for the rest of the week.

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cairmen March 12 2013, 20:24:04 UTC
Yeah, the big, well-documented problem with Paleo, particularly in the UK, is the cost.

Having said that, we won't be eating steak every day...

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louisedennis March 13 2013, 10:15:44 UTC
Steak is, pretty much, about as expensive as you can get.

EDIT: I've occasionally considered a low-carb diet, it must be said. But there would be mutiny in the lower ranks. On the whole I count myself lucky that it is industrial quantities of bread and pasta that we consume, rather than industrial quantities of sweets and fruit juice.

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mannheimblack March 12 2013, 19:00:08 UTC
Plenty of steak. Can't argue with that, if you can get it at an affordable rate.

'8 ox ribeye steak'

That's a -lot- of steak. This diet would be based on what Paleolithic sabretooth tigers ate?

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cairmen March 12 2013, 20:26:51 UTC
" if you can get it at an affordable rate"

Er. Yeah. See above. Not so much :)

Although 8 oz of steak is actually not as much as you'd think compared to recommended levels of protein intake, particularly on a high-protein diet. Check out the WHO's recommendations - they're quite enlightening.

(It's also worth noting that both Becca and I have a lot of muscle for our respective heights, which affects recommended protein intake - and the cost of a Paleo diet, sadly.)

I don't have the specifics here, but apparently Paleolithic man was also not as short on meat as is popularly assumed, either.

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mannheimblack March 12 2013, 20:44:12 UTC
Oh. I was referring to the 8 ox of steak you mentioned, not the 8 oz.

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cairmen March 12 2013, 20:52:17 UTC
Dammit. I'm trying to come back with a punny response to this, but I got nothin'.

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kiffkin March 12 2013, 19:48:10 UTC
While I can't eat meat everything else looks and sounds really tasty. See, this is what it should be called: The Tasty Awesome Diet And By The Way It Is Healthy Too.

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cairmen March 12 2013, 20:27:27 UTC
I shall henceforth also use the alternative name of TTADABTWIIHT. Occasionally.

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spacelem March 12 2013, 23:06:56 UTC
Jules (my wife) is cows' milk intolerant (not an issue), gluten intolerant (not an issue), nut allergy (probably an issue), and vegetarian (not sure, but by the looks of your diet, probably an issue).

We generally eat a lot of quorn, rice, onions, courgettes, aubergines, peppers, salad, spicy Indianish things, stir fry-ish things, and at the weekends a Sunday lunch (involving gravy, potato, GF Yorkshire pudding, boiled veg, and more quorn). Sometimes we go Mediterranean, and have halloumi and humous. I tend to eat meat when we're out. I try to have All Bran with raisins and banana for breakfast, when I remember. Lunch is generally either a tuna sandwich or a baked potato with tuna.

How far off are we right now?

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cairmen March 13 2013, 16:39:36 UTC
The nuts thing would certainly be an issue!

I believe you can do vegetarian Paleo, but it's not easy. Eggs would feature prominently.

You'd probably also want to avoid the Quorn (Soya), you'd definitely want to cut out the rice, and you'd need to be preparing your own food. Other than that, you're good to go.

(BTW, sounds like a pretty healthy diet already! )

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spacelem March 13 2013, 19:32:56 UTC
Quorn is made from mycoprotein (and eggs), so that might not be too bad. It's also something that we both like and can eat. We do largely make our own food from scratch (well, if you're okay with pre-chopped tomatoes).

By the way, I was reading (top 2 or 3 hits on google) about beans and lentils. Apparently they're off the paleo diet due to phytates and lectins, although I've also read that if you cook lentils for at least 15 minutes at 100 C, or 2 hours at 80 C, then you denature the lectins, and the residual levels could be really healthy. Also, nuts can contain quite high levels of phytates, so that blurs the line too.

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cairmen March 13 2013, 19:43:29 UTC
Yeah, the beans thing is by far the sketchiest bit of the diet. As I said in my uberpost, we're mostly skipping them because we don't really want to eat beans.

Oh, yeah, I'd forgotten Quorn wasn't soy. Arguably alright, then, if you trust the process that it's made with!

And yes, I think Paleo as a whole is fine with pre-chopped tomatoes, thank heavens.

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ophelia_complex March 13 2013, 16:14:17 UTC
red meat and eggs? you think that's good for your cholesterol? Wow.

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cairmen March 13 2013, 16:38:08 UTC
Eggs: Dietary cholesterol != blood cholesterol. Google it.

Meat: In general, the saturated fat / red meat / heart disease debate is rather significantly more complex than it's usually presented as being. Notably, there are some significant problems with most of the "landmark" studies that led to current mainstream dietary recommendations.

It's a big topic and I'm not very interested in being an evangelist. I'm convinced enough by both studies, science and anecdotal evidence that I'm giving this a try. I am, however, keeping an eye on my weight, BP and HDL/LDL levels.

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