Dumbledore/Voldemort (first thoughts)

[cabepfir]

Sometimes, fanfictions can make you understand bits of canon you hadn’t previously appreciated. Despite my openess toward slash, I’ve never given a damn about Dumbledore’s homosexuality, for example, or about his relationship with Grindelwald, probably because I found it so alien from HP’s main plot line, or because it was simply badly written. In

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[sigune]

I can't help noticing that this Snape is not nearly as handsome as your usual version. Are you spoiling Hermione, or is this simply not *your* Snape? :-)

Isn't it incredible that the only readings of DH (and the whole Potter series in retrospect) that actually make sense are very cynical ones? I wonder if JKR is at all aware of this. If she isn't, I guess there is something Freudian going on; and if she is, she's a great actress...

[cabepfir]

No, that is perverse_idyll 's Snape, a fanart for In Infinite Remorse of Soul, and yes, he's the ugliest Snape I've ever drawn. In any case, in my WIP he's always described as ugly (besides, he's not tall at all - re: the discussion we had once with Vizen - and, at 49, begins to have grey hair and wrinkles, too.) :P

[perverse_idyll]

I am so, so flattered, first that my fic prompted you to think differently and with renewed interest about some of the canon relationships, and second, that you drew something so attuned to the emotional conflict between Snape and Dumbledore. It's the pivotal scene of that first section, the moment Albus fails Severus even before we get to the "You must kill me" scene, thereby setting in motion Severus' ultimate loss of faith. (Lily's death is a HUGE betrayal, but I don't think Snape has the perspective to apportion Dumbledore's share of the blame until much later.) This failure doesn't bear its full poisoned fruit until the afterlife, but in my mind it's the point at which Snape starts to let his obsession with Harry replace his trust in Dumbledore.

I've already said it, but if this is your version of ugly!Snape, I can only repeat he looks fabulous to me. Bony and exposed and quivering with indignation, shoving his Dark Mark in Dumbledore's face. His expression is perfect, and so is his greasy hair. Yet you also manage to make his

[cabepfir]

Thanks to you for your compliments, and for such a simple drawing, in truth. Absolutely, Dumbledore is playing the righteous boy here, and the hands are of course meant to do what you caught - also because Severus' stretched arm seems to go so close to DD's belly.

What I liked in your fics is that Snape is rancorous and bitter, never weak. Even if he's caged by Albus in a sharp-cutting game, he retains his own mind. He may kneel, but he doesn't bow.

And no, it's not rude to suggest me your fic, which I will hopefully read when I have the time. I have to warn you, though, that I appreciate the speculative endings of musing about Snape/Harry relationship, but it doesn't excite the slasher in me, if you can follow my reasoning. I can understand the light it sheds over canon, and enjoy the psychoanalytical repercussions, but it doesn't get me "squee". It's only fair to admit that, for delight's sake, my OTP is Snape/Hermione, that is quite on the other end of the angsty line, possibly

[perverse_idyll]

Sorry, I meant to answer this several days ago, but the week has just gone by with a whoosh!

I'm a firm believer in Snape's bitterness. I have a hard time accepting versions of him that sand down his rough edges in the name of maturity. His anger and darkness are central to who he is. He's been fighting fate and his own shortcomings all his life, and I think he would be, to the end, a difficult man.

Oh, I do understand the lack of connection when a story focusses on a pairing that's not yours or when it just doesn't click in that thrilling way. I suspect I feel much the same toward Snape/Hermione as you feel toward Snape/Harry. I can enjoy well-written examples of SS/HG, but they don't give me that quivering, addictive delight. So please don't feel obliged to read The White Road just because I mentioned it. IMO, fandom is purely for personal enjoyment, and no one should ever force themselves to read stories that don't appeal

Unexpected art for a fic

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[vhizen]

Your plot sounds good, write such a story, I will read

[cabepfir]

Thank you for the links - I'll check them soon (oh, how late I am with everybody's replies

[vhizen]

yaip

[cabepfir]

Well, I told you that I was just explaining my points, not trying to convince you, since we know how much our opinions differ on some points :) And I'm sorry if I sounded harsh (I didn't want to), but as I told you, DD's death is actually my main problem with the HP series as a whole, so it's only logical that I would be passionate on the matter.

I received a literary education and studied mainly literature at university, up to getting a PhD in Comparative Literatures. So you're right, I have my own ideas about what books "should" and "shouldn't" be, and I'm imbued with notions about narratology, literary theory and the like. I studied especially epic poetry, which is a genre which follows a lot of rules, and I may be particularly fond of some rules in my books. This is the way I am, of course, not some ideal point of view, just my own.

Literary theorist Hans Robert Jauss coined the term "horizon of expectations" to define the plot developments you come to expect from a certain book. In this sense, the first half of a book is very

[vhizen]

Ah, voilà le livre que je t'ai montré chez moi, en italien :
http://www.amazon.fr/Harry-Potter-lanti-Peter-lettura/dp/8861591507

Je ne l'ai toujours pas lu (car je n'ose pas) mais l'auteur, docteur en littérature, a donc une approche de spécialiste et il semble qu'elle va dans le même sens que moi au sujet du sens des livres, sûrement en analysant mieux que moi avec plus de critique et de rigueur. En tout cas, peut-être est-ce aussi un point de vue à étudier. :)