Nod and GDI

[broken_religion]

   So I've tried out C&C 3, installed it about 2 days ago. I've it on highest settings and it runs smoothly, for the most part (I'll get to that later). I've not had enough time with the game to really know how it is, but for the most part, I'm enthralled

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[scribblette]

Yeah, I always loved the C&Cs, but I never bought any besides Renegade (the FPS, which was a bit of a disappointment).

I've always been a Harkonnen & Kane fan myself. :)

[broken_religion]

Renegade was ok. They showed a lot of stuff but they didn't go too much into detail about it. I don't like what EA's done though, I hate EA so much.

I've always like the Brotherhood of Nod, and there's a Dune game made by Westwood Studios as well (dunno if you know about it) where you play as the different houses. It's basically like C&C the original, each faction has basically the same units, but they have sort of super units that are special for each house. I think I was more inclined to the more insidious house, the green one, can't remember the name. Harkonnen I think are crazy like the Brotherhood, but I haven't read any of the books nor played their storyline.

[scribblette]

Dude. I loved Dune. It's the only reason I gave C&C a chance. And it's why I said Harkonnen! You're talking about the Ordos. They were cool with the gas.

In C&C Generals I loved playing the GLA.

[broken_religion]

The first time we got it it wouldn't install correctly onto our computer, so we never got to play anything besides the first mission of one of the factions, not sure which it was. With the Ordos I've only got up to maybe halfway through the storyline. But C&C was the first game we got, and we got Dune because of Westwood, heh.

I hated GLA, they shouldn't have had a base to begin with..

[scribblette]

lol! but the GLA were awesome! Putting suicide bombers in cars and singing crazy shit as you blew up your opponent to really piss them off! :D

[broken_religion]

heh, they were too easy to beat. China nuke general ftw in my opinion. But yeah, they shouldn't have had a base. maybe a few buildings, but they would have to be built from the houses that were already there. The GLA would have to start off in a city area, and they recruit people from there. Unless the GLA is financed by some random country I guess.

[scribblette]

GLA is financed by all sorts of folk. Including oil sheikhs. And enemy governments. That especially. The Taliban were once funded by the US, through Pakistan.

[broken_religion]

Yeah. Well, I dunno. Command and Conquer has always been kinda weird with needing buildings for stuff.. I can kinda see how that makes sense, but oh well.

[scribblette]

If you want a non-basebuilding RTS, you're playing the wrong game! there are lots of games out there where units aren't dependent on bases (but typically you don't have unit production at all then and you focus on trying to save the units you have). C&C isn't weird about it at all. It's tradition throughout C&C, Red Alert, Starcraft, Warcraft, Rise of Nations, Heroes of Might and Magic, etc.

I've been playing the new C&C and I'm disappointed. All the sides seem identical in practice, the difference only really being in appearance. :/ Starcraft by contrast had completely different sides, so it really was a different experience for what you played. Generals, too, had a bigger difference between the sides. There's no story in missions this one, either - the story is mostly between missions. Starcraft and Warcraft were fantastic for showing you story WHILE you played the single player campaign, not just between missions.

[broken_religion]

No I've no problem with base building, too much. Just the GLA shouldn't need so many buildings. A terrorist organization wouldn't have a readily identifiable base of operations I would think

[scribblette]

if the GLA needed fewer buildings... it would make it easier to take them out. Much easier. Which means you'd have to be building lots more of the same sort of building. Which'd be no fun. Besides, people like having stuff to unlock more stuff in missions, so there's enough stuff happening for a campaign. Terrorists don't hang out in just the one place, but they do hang out in places. Civilian buildings more, sure, but they have camps, burrows, etc. And not all maps had civilian buildings there

[broken_religion]

I've not played Rise of Legends, but I've seen it, looked pretty interesting

[scribblette]

Starcraft etc were different and not one-sided. Personally I think it's just a lack of inventiveness on the creators part. Symmetry is easy easier to balance. Give things different appearances and the same function and you don't have to bother playtesting to balance sides

[broken_religion]

Nah, the Zone Troopers get owned so easily by the tripods if they're around. I really liked that APC/Grenadier combo they used at the beginning of the GDI campaign, but the APCs are too soft, so it doesn't work well when the full tech tree is usable. Mammoths are my unit of choice in, but If I've the money I'll start drop podding Zone Troopers and build a small flanking army with them

[scribblette]

Yah, don't know if it was based on books or what. Wasn't very popular but got lots of press.

[broken_religion]

Yeah, there was a Left Behind series. Read pretty much the entire series except for the last book, figured it was going to be like the end of The Return of the King, alot of end fluff that would bore me to the point where I wouldn't finish the story. 'Course I didn't know that the Shire was in trouble, and I red the Rings books a long time ago..

I read the series mostly to see one perspective of the catastrophes that would befall mandkind, from Revelations. All the plagues and bowl and seal punishments and such.