YouTube - not safe any more

[brihana25]

There is a thread on Kawoosh, started last summer, where we were discussing whether or not it was a good idea to be posting music videos to YouTube. Was the exposure something we, as a fandom, could withstand? Was the free hosting worth the very public venue? Would MGM take action against us

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[morgandawn]

There has been a lot of discussion around this:

The "You Can/Can't Stop The Signal" discussion
http://community.livejournal.com/vidding/893694.html

Then a recent migration to iMeem (an alternative to Youtube - is it any better? safer?)
http://morgandawn.livejournal.com/465162.html
http://morgandawn.livejournal.com/tag/imeem

I'd love to read the discussion on Kawoosh - is there a link?

[brihana25]

Sorry about not putting those links in the original post. I'll reply them to you and then edit to add them.

People posting others vids & legal stuff

YouTube - not safe any more (What can I say? It was my "let's rant everywhere" day... :)

I'm going to go read those ones you linked to, too. I think this discussion has been a long time coming. I just wish it had never come to this point.

The Big Picture

[morgandawn]

The 'discussion' has been going on - at least the putting vids online part - since we started digitized our vids 6-67 years ago. It spans a many fandoms and thousands of groups of vidders - in fact vidding has grown so much that there is no longer a single vidding culture or set of guidelines

Re: The Big Picture

[ms_3m]

I didn't want worldwide publicity. I didn't want worldwide exposure. I've been yelled at, insulted, called every name in the book and more, all because I tried my damndest to keep my vids as under the radar as possible. I made them in a small fandom community, and that's where I wanted them to stay.I think you missed one of the points in brihana's post. She (and others who want to fly under the radar as it were), has lost a certain amount of control as to the distribution of their vids

Re: The Big Picture

[morgandawn]

I did skip over that aspect of her post - not because it is not important, but because it feeds into my main point. And let me be clear - it is extremely frustrating to lose creative control of your work and not be given credit

Re: The Big Picture

[stormcloude]

I think you missed one of the points in brihana's post. She ... has lost a certain amount of control as to the distribution of their vids.

Wow, this really struck me, because this could be the exact same argument that NBC/Scifi/MGM use for taking their copyrighted material down.

If brihana NBC/Scifi/MGM had been able to maintain control over distribution of her their creative works, then she they probably would not be pursuing this ongoing rant legal action against YouTube, MySpace, etc.

Sorry, I'm not trying to start anything and I'm not on anyone's side, but it seems rather contraditory.

Re: The Big Picture

[faith_girl222]

not really - no one is going to come knocking on nbc/scifi/mgm's door to threaten them with fines and tell them they can't produce their art any longer because someone carelessly shared their products in public. and certainly they would never be in a position where someone could mistake their products for something made by the uploader and not by them.

Re: The Big Picture

[brihana25]

Sorry, I'm not trying to start anything and I'm not on anyone's side, but it seems rather contraditory.No offense taken at all, because you're right. There is a certain irony - some have even said hypocrisy - inherent in the situation. My biggest problem with YouTube (right behind the very public exposure it has given the vidding community) is the fact that they now refuse (they used to do it without hesitation) to remove the videos that I made that other people are posting. Why? Because I'm not MGM, I don't own any part of the copyright for Stargate, and I can't present them with all the proper legal documentation to warrant action