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The Patriarchy Strikes Back

Mar 14, 2006 08:25

...These circumstances are leading to the emergence of a new society whose members will disproportionately be descended from parents who rejected the social tendencies that once made childlessness and small families the norm. These values include an adherence to traditional, patriarchal religion, and a strong identification with one's own folk or ( Read more... )

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Already happened... joshuadf March 14 2006, 14:28:22 UTC

... or did you miss what's been going on in Washington, DC, the past few years?

Seriously, though, I only glanced at a few lines in the article and I'd agree that's it's built on some pretty shaky assumptions. One I didn't see mentioned is: Why would children of conservatives all be conservative? (For example, both my parents and my in-laws are significantly more conservative than most of their children on many issues.)

Also, there is a long tradition of female leadership in Christian and Jewish religious practice as well (besides the obvious Mary examples, there were female prophets such as Deborah, lay leaders like Rhoda, etc.). The exception is the priesthood which was required by law to be only male descendants of Aaron the brother of Moses. This is one reason the modern Christians that have "priests" (Catholic, Episcopal, Orthodox) rather than "pastors", which are modern version of prophets, have more trouble with female leadership. ([bias]Despite St. Paul's "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, ( ... )

Re: Already happened... rimrunner March 14 2006, 16:06:11 UTC

Why would children of conservatives all be conservative?

Exactly, and that's one of the things I was getting at when I talked about other influences. For better or for worse, for younger people (say, into one's early to mid-twenties, as far as I've observed and have read), the primary shapers of their opinions are their peers.

This is one reason the modern Christians that have "priests" (Catholic, Episcopal, Orthodox) rather than "pastors", which are modern version of prophets, have more trouble with female leadership. Hey, I always wondered about that. Huh ( ... )

Re: Already happened... joshuadf March 15 2006, 11:22:45 UTC

That reminds me of another point, I don't remember where I read this, but there's been an argument that liberality/conservatism is a function of stage in life. The Baby Boomers are currently a big proportion of our population, and an even bigger part of the voting public. Don't know if it holds up with real-world data or not, though.

Re: Already happened... brassratgirl March 15 2006, 13:43:41 UTC

I don't know if there's been any demographic studies to that effect, but anectdotally people certainly get more conservative as they age. Since our parent's generation had considerably fewer children than their parents - ugh.

Re: Already happened... rimrunner March 16 2006, 09:18:27 UTC

My folks still have a comic they clipped from The Wall Street Journal many many years ago. A guy is talking to a younger guy, probably his son, who is wearing a tie and looks concerned. The older guy is saying: "I wouldn't worry about it Roger, we all start out as liberals. You lose it with your baby fat."

(Yeah, my parents are fairly conservative, politically, though they are neither especially religious, nor do they have lots of kids. They do think more highly of Bush than I do, but on the other hand, that wouldn't be hard.)

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