'I'm sick of always looking like Darth Vader with Sunshine Barbie...'

[borg_princess]

Frak you, ff.net. I finally get back online and want to post my new TLW chapter to Where I Follow but DOCUMENT MANAGER IS DOWN, YOU SAY? You couldn't have had this hissy fit OVER THE WEEKEND? When I was trapped at home and couldn't get online, you didn't wanna chuck your wobbly then?

Hee. Australian slang makes me giggle. Wait, I'm angry right now

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[sunkrux]

Okay...I may have to rethink our flist friendship. I just read I was disillusioned with Stargate SG-1, and when I heard about the new Farscape actors joining the show, I was scathing as hell about it, all, ‘Omg, why are these rejects joining SG-1? DESPERATE, much?’ *jaw drop* from your post back on 22 December 2008.

YOU dared to call the phenomenally talented Claudia Black a REJECT and desperate?! Dudette, so not cool.

BUT I see you have learned your lesson so I'll forgive you. ;)

Also...SQUEEEEE!!!!! at the icon. It is WAY fabulous! :D

ETA:
Uh, you do realize that technically the Zanga should probably be speaking a Spanish dialect...since the Plateau is technically in South America. :D :P

Yes Marguerite is found of the shinies...but as an end to getting herself out of debt. Vala just liked them cause they were shiny. :P LOL

[borg_princess]

*hides* I KNOW, I KNOW. I'd never seen FS at the time, and I was so angry at all the cast changes that I was just spitting and cursing in every direction. I loved my team, damn it. But then when I actually saw Vala and Cam...*instant love* That was what made me go out and marathon FS, lol.

I just really hate change- I did the same thing with Criminal Minds, loathed Emily, ranted about her for days but now she's my favorite, just like with Vala. Embarrassing as hell to realize how prejudiced I was at the beginning, but ah, well, look at the character growth.

SQUEEEEE!!!!! at the icon. It is WAY fabulous! :D

'tis indeed! From her post over here. Apparently I get 50% of the credit for my awesomeness at...*coughs* enabling. :D

technically the Zanga should probably be speaking a Spanish dialect...since the Plateau is technically in South America. :D :PWell, don't look at me, I'm not in charge of the dialect they use on the show! I guess the writers didn't want to make up a language, so they just used some random island language and

[sunkrux]

eh, don't be too nervous. I tell even my best friends sometimes that I have to rethink our friendship. ;)

I checked out your friend's post with the prudy shiny iconage. :D Very good stuff.

Well Marguerite had that locket and probably always wondered about her parents. Vala knew hers well.

[borg_princess]

*sigh of relief* Excellent. You're good fun to talk to, plus, you're the person I go to when I have trouble figuring out fandom stuff. Which leads to my awkward segue-

Marguerite had that locket and probably always wondered about her parents.

'k, you bring up something that's been bothering me- Marguerite says to Roxton that he doesn't even know if that IS her name, but...that's the name on her prized locket, isn't it? If she's not sure that's her name, does she think it might not even belong to her? 'coz that's weird, considering how much sentimental value it has for her. *confuzzled*

Vala knew hers ALL TOO WELL. *smirks* I loved that she kept that box of trinkets. She hated him so much, but at heart, she was still that little girl who treasured the gifts from her father. *squishes*

[sunkrux]

Okay, Marguerite and that particular conversation with Roxton. I personally think that in her haste to push him away...AND the fact that yet again she's been reminded that she doesn't know who her parents are scares her. You should know/remember that during the time period that TLW takes place in, orphans were pretty much always blamed for being orphans. Like it was some how their fault they don't have parents or their parents abandoned them. So when ever her childhood (and from all we were shown/told through the show, it was not a very happy one) is brought up...it pushes her into that scared little girl she keeps hidden.

The sentimental value she places on it is probably what kept her from becoming what she fears most, completely evil. I think it helped her know that in spite of her parents abandoning her or dying or whatever happened to them, they did love her (or so she hopes). That I think is the biggest thing she craves and needs, to be loved. Since it's apparent she didn't get a lot of it growing up.

[borg_princess]

I get that in this conversation, she's scared, she's feeling vulnerable, this is Roxton who has a proud [later revealed to be somewhat scandalous, lol] heritage and family tree that extends back however many centuries...so she uses her lack of history as something to put distance between them, but *headdesk* I still don't get why she'd say that Marguerite might not be her name and he agrees, he says that SHE doesn't know if it is her name either. This locket that she treasures because it's a sign that the parents she never knew cared for her has the inscription with the name 'Margueite' on it, so why the doubt?

orphans were pretty much always blamed for being orphansDoesn't it suck for her, though? I can't remember what she said exactly, but wasn't she adopted at two or something? So first her parents abandon her/die/whatever, and then the people that take her in boot her off to the convent. *shakes head* Talk about double whammy. Not one but two sets of parents give her up. If my memory is correct. I really need to see the last few

[sunkrux]

I'm gonna guess that maybe at some point in her childhood some mean kid found her locket and convinced her some what that it was possible that it wasn't really hers. Also in The Secret, she admits (and it was hard for her) to Roxton that she has never seen her birth certificate. Hence I think that's where some of the doubt of her first name being Marguerite.

IMHO, it is Marguerite. So stop worrying. :P

I think he found out in The Secret. Or during one of their many late night talks (we never see them but I like to think they had them...and there are several fics from back in the day that put that there in my mind). OR he figured it out from the hints she gave to them through out the series about her childhood. Running from the police in Paris, drinking while in the convent...all things that might make one wonder/believe that someone doesn't have a family or one that cares.

[borg_princess]

Ohhh. I like that. *huggles* I mean, it's AWFUL, but I get it now, I can see it happening and how it'd affect her, even after all this time. Thank you for setting my mind at ease! Names are important, damn it, I'm getting as insecure as Marguerite over the issue, lol

[sunkrux]

They wouldn't (they meaning the writers) have made such a big deal over her birth certificate if it was one that Xan just made up. Xan didn't play like that.

Yeah, the late night chats were possibly canon but not until S3. However, I think they had them before then. See, I think Marguerite has trouble sleeping because she has nightmares because of her life and what she's done, especially when she was Parsifal.

As for Veronica, she's a bit more aware of what goes on around than Roxton is, especially where emotions are concerned. Also, why else would Marguerite have taunted Veronica about her father's smoking jacket?

[borg_princess]

I'm just surprised that Marguerite trusted him not to double-cross her. But I guess she was desperate, if someone offers you that one thing you most want in the world, you're going to take that chance, right? And I suppose she took his half of the ouroboros to keep him honest...

Actually, that in itself is weird, that she planned to give it to him- if you had an object that could send you anywhere in time and space, wouldn't you use it to go track down your parents?

Hey, IS it 'Parsifal'? I've come across so many different spellings, it's driving me nuts. I like this one, personally. All the good writers use it, lol.

It's an intuitive leap I wouldn't have expected her to make. The woman believes the worst of Marguerite after three years, I didn't think she'd realize one bit of taunting would reveal the truth to her- more likely she'd say something like, 'Oh, didn't your parents love you? What a surprise' rather than guessing that Marguerite never knew them at all. *shrugs*

[sunkrux]

Yes, she was disparate since she did steal the half of the ouroboros because she hoped she'd be able to find the other half and trade it for her birth certificate. Unfortunately for her things did not go as she had planned (mainly cause that plot wasn't really revealed until S3. LOL ). She hadn't planned on falling in love with Roxton. THAT is why she stayed and lost the ouroboros. She didn't want to leave Roxton. :D

Hell yes I'd use something like the ouroboros to find out who my parents were...but like Marguerite...one can not plan - no matter how hard you try - where, when or who you will fall in love with.

Parsifal I'm not sure since I'm basically spelling how it sounds in my head. LOL

Considering that I think Veronica might have heard some of the late night talks Marguerite and Roxton had...she just figured it out. That's my story and I'm sticking too it. That and I'm fairly sure Marguerite mentioned several times in front of Veronica that she didn't any family and was raised in convents.