'I'm sick of always looking like Darth Vader with Sunshine Barbie...'

Apr 14, 2009 10:21

Frak you, ff.net. I finally get back online and want to post my new TLW chapter to Where I Follow but DOCUMENT MANAGER IS DOWN, YOU SAY? You couldn't have had this hissy fit OVER THE WEEKEND? When I was trapped at home and couldn't get online, you didn't wanna chuck your wobbly then?

Hee. Australian slang makes me giggle. Wait, I'm angry right now ( Read more... )

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borg_princess April 14 2009, 04:09:39 UTC
I get that in this conversation, she's scared, she's feeling vulnerable, this is Roxton who has a proud [later revealed to be somewhat scandalous, lol] heritage and family tree that extends back however many centuries...so she uses her lack of history as something to put distance between them, but *headdesk* I still don't get why she'd say that Marguerite might not be her name and he agrees, he says that SHE doesn't know if it is her name either. This locket that she treasures because it's a sign that the parents she never knew cared for her has the inscription with the name 'Margueite' on it, so why the doubt?

orphans were pretty much always blamed for being orphans

Doesn't it suck for her, though? I can't remember what she said exactly, but wasn't she adopted at two or something? So first her parents abandon her/die/whatever, and then the people that take her in boot her off to the convent. *shakes head* Talk about double whammy. Not one but two sets of parents give her up. If my memory is correct. I really need to see the last few eps of season three again, it's just I get so sad.

You know another thing that confuses me? [Yes, there is a LOT] In Beast Within, when the girls were down the well, Veronica says that Marguerite is jealous of her because V knew her parents and Marguerite didn't- um, I don't exactly see them having slumber parties and Marguerite confiding her deepest darkest secrets or anything, so I always wondered where that comment came from.

Now this makes me wonder when ROXTON found about about her lack of family. Gah! Well, another reason to rewatch the series, lol.

Btw? Thanks for humoring me. :D Tthere's always a lot of questions I have about any show, but TLW in particular can be very baffling.

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sunkrux April 14 2009, 04:27:03 UTC
I'm gonna guess that maybe at some point in her childhood some mean kid found her locket and convinced her some what that it was possible that it wasn't really hers. Also in The Secret, she admits (and it was hard for her) to Roxton that she has never seen her birth certificate. Hence I think that's where some of the doubt of her first name being Marguerite.

IMHO, it is Marguerite. So stop worrying. :P

I think he found out in The Secret. Or during one of their many late night talks (we never see them but I like to think they had them...and there are several fics from back in the day that put that there in my mind). OR he figured it out from the hints she gave to them through out the series about her childhood. Running from the police in Paris, drinking while in the convent...all things that might make one wonder/believe that someone doesn't have a family or one that cares.

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borg_princess April 14 2009, 04:44:59 UTC
Ohhh. I like that. *huggles* I mean, it's AWFUL, but I get it now, I can see it happening and how it'd affect her, even after all this time. Thank you for setting my mind at ease! Names are important, damn it, I'm getting as insecure as Marguerite over the issue, lol.

By the by, it apparently means 'pearl'. Although I just googled it and found alternate meanings- 'daisy' in French, and also... 'child of light'. Ha!

That thing with the birth certificate, though- couldn't Xan have just manufactured any old certificate, what's the guarantee that it would be hers? She's putting a lot of faith in his good word!

Late night balcony chats FTW. I've read a few of those fics. *bounces* Roxton even mentions it in one of the last few season 3 eps, he says she's avoiding him, something like she has 'no time for late night coffee anymore'. *glees* It's CANON, yo!

And you're right, those hints she dropped probably would've give him a clue it wasn't all Happy Families back home. I just don't like the idea that VERONICA somehow knew about it before he did, like, wtf?!

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sunkrux April 14 2009, 14:05:38 UTC
They wouldn't (they meaning the writers) have made such a big deal over her birth certificate if it was one that Xan just made up. Xan didn't play like that.

Yeah, the late night chats were possibly canon but not until S3. However, I think they had them before then. See, I think Marguerite has trouble sleeping because she has nightmares because of her life and what she's done, especially when she was Parsifal.

As for Veronica, she's a bit more aware of what goes on around than Roxton is, especially where emotions are concerned. Also, why else would Marguerite have taunted Veronica about her father's smoking jacket?

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borg_princess April 16 2009, 01:13:28 UTC
I'm just surprised that Marguerite trusted him not to double-cross her. But I guess she was desperate, if someone offers you that one thing you most want in the world, you're going to take that chance, right? And I suppose she took his half of the ouroboros to keep him honest...

Actually, that in itself is weird, that she planned to give it to him- if you had an object that could send you anywhere in time and space, wouldn't you use it to go track down your parents?

Hey, IS it 'Parsifal'? I've come across so many different spellings, it's driving me nuts. I like this one, personally. All the good writers use it, lol.

It's an intuitive leap I wouldn't have expected her to make. The woman believes the worst of Marguerite after three years, I didn't think she'd realize one bit of taunting would reveal the truth to her- more likely she'd say something like, 'Oh, didn't your parents love you? What a surprise' rather than guessing that Marguerite never knew them at all. *shrugs*

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sunkrux April 16 2009, 01:45:50 UTC
Yes, she was disparate since she did steal the half of the ouroboros because she hoped she'd be able to find the other half and trade it for her birth certificate. Unfortunately for her things did not go as she had planned (mainly cause that plot wasn't really revealed until S3. LOL ). She hadn't planned on falling in love with Roxton. THAT is why she stayed and lost the ouroboros. She didn't want to leave Roxton. :D

Hell yes I'd use something like the ouroboros to find out who my parents were...but like Marguerite...one can not plan - no matter how hard you try - where, when or who you will fall in love with.

Parsifal I'm not sure since I'm basically spelling how it sounds in my head. LOL

Considering that I think Veronica might have heard some of the late night talks Marguerite and Roxton had...she just figured it out. That's my story and I'm sticking too it. That and I'm fairly sure Marguerite mentioned several times in front of Veronica that she didn't any family and was raised in convents.

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