A short BSG-related rant

Mar 02, 2009 22:11

Wow. It actually got worse. I didn't think that was possible! *blinks* Damn, I wish I'd bailed when you did, mskatej!

no real spoilers, just personal reaction to 4.17 )

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chani86 March 2 2009, 16:13:13 UTC
I saw your post on queenofthorns I normally don’t like to spam other people’s LJs with negaivity, but since you seem to feel the same way I do, I hope this will be okay ( ... )

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bop_radar March 5 2009, 05:05:42 UTC
It's totally ok!

And I went through months of rage, personally, until I finally clicked that it really wasn't worht my energy any more. I used to write meta for the show joyfully, then I used to write it out of a sense of obligation and finally I gave up. I don't even care about spoilers any moer!

I hope they don’t revive K/L for the finale, after showing K/S as the OTP of the show for four episdes
SAME. But they so will. They'll do the last tokenistic hoorah, in order to hedge their bets with their audience. COWARDS.

I think Jamie may have fallen out with them a bit toward the end, but even if they didn't, I think the complete underappreciation of Lee as a character would have overwhelmed other factors by now, alas.

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chani86 March 5 2009, 18:04:30 UTC
Oh absolutely, not worth the bother, I read recaps before deciding wether I'll watch an episode or not, so spoilers are my least concern.

They'll totally give both K/L and K/S some special moment of everlasting love blah blah, to satisfy all the fans, but it won't mean anything. I've called it along time ago, with all this kissing and angsting over other people in the next scene.

Yeah I think you could be right, would explain why Jamie didn't seem very relaxed at ComicCon, if they really didn't get along towards the end. But what really still bugs me is that everyone goes on about how deep and artistic RDM's writing is, when his favourite characters are the most stereotyped and one-dimensional. (I don't hate Helo or Sam, but they're not very conflicted or deep characters even with Sam's Cylonity).

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bop_radar March 5 2009, 22:26:10 UTC
They'll totally give both K/L and K/S some special moment of everlasting love blah blah
Yeah, how cheap is that? I kind of think of BSG as a street-corner whore these days...

what really still bugs me is that everyone goes on about how deep and artistic RDM's writing is
Oh I know. That really bugs me too. I think a lot of fans have rose-tinted glasses, and in part that may be to keep sane and to preserve some small fragment of enjoyment from the show--that much I can understand. But the people that actually laud him as being a creative genius are really deluded. He created an interesting universe and that seems to have worked steadily to make it less and less interesting, more and more cliched and stereotypical (and sexist!), and then also not provided a solid, consistent narrative.

I was happy to see Slate coming out with this: http://www.slate.com/id/2213006/ Sounds

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chani86 March 5 2009, 23:53:51 UTC
He created an interesting universe and that seems to have worked steadily to make it less and less interesting, more and more cliched and stereotypical (and sexist!), and then also not provided a solid, consistent narrative.

Yes I think that's an accurate description, and all of this adoration for the writers has really gone to his head, how pretentious does he come across now? Also I'm really tired of hearing how a bad epsisode of BSG is still better than anything else on TV, because that might have been the case at some point but not anymore. The narrative sucks, that's a big problem!

Thanks for the link, some really good points there (esp. about the human women and the lack of interactions between women). I'd add to it that TV tends to just tack "male" qualities on to women and call it feminism and I think BSG is guilty of that too. But I don't think they were ever concerned by being feminist, it was probably just some good press for them.

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bop_radar March 6 2009, 09:31:47 UTC
'm really tired of hearing how a bad epsisode of BSG is still better than anything else on TV, because that might have been the case at some point but not anymore
Absolutely!! I might have said that in, like, season 2. But no longer! It's just absolutely NOT true. There is HEAPS of better television out there. It just takes some patience to find it. I watch a lot of shows that are superficially a lot more flawed than BSG, yet they occasionally chalk up moments of real brilliance. And oddly I find that more satisfying than seeing something that once had so much awesome go down the drain...

I think '33' will always be one of the best hours of TV ever, and there are other things I will always love BSG for. They just aren't in the latter half of the show's production.

I think Ron is a sexist pig who pretends otherwise in order to appear 'respectable' and 'cool'.

TV tends to just tack "male" qualities on to women and call it feminismAgreed. I worried about this from the start with Kara, but I gave her a chance because my best friend ( ... )

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