Wow you're back to hating it, huh? Aw, sad. I like when Boppy is happy!!
I do agree that it was all resolved pretty tidily for Adama & Co., eh? I also loved the Gaeta/Baltar scene (although I still don't get whether it was for reals because how on Earth was Gaeta not restrained/in the brig for that convo? I mean Adama isn't that naive to let the leader of the rebellion just swan around untethered smoking cigarillos with Baltar in nicely appointed quarters, is he?)
Lee in the scene with the grenade?? ::DIES:: So hot and awesome. I haven't loved Lee like that in a long frakkin' time. Captain Apollo is indeed still in there somewhere.
Now let me defend my girl for a bit: Kara/Anders. Ouch. How shortlived was the Kara/Lee teamwork? Sheesh. As soon as Sam showed up, it was over. And then of COURSE he got melodramatically shot and bled all over her and she had to be All About Sam and abandon Lee again. There's only two ways this will end: 1) he dies the martyr's death I predicted and Kara never gets over it or 2) he recovers slowly and they get back together and work through things. Either way, there goes my Kara again... Makes a farce of the kiss and Kara/Lee team stuff last week. She just wished he was Sam, let's face it.
C'mon now. It was okay for Lee to go on a date with his ex-wife but Kara can't show concern for her CURRENT HUSBAND WHO IS BLEEDING FROM THE NECK AND SEEMINGLY ABOUT TO DIE? I think she'd be castigated for being a cold bitch if she wasn't concerned about him, so I think she's screwed either way here. :(
Besides, if he does die a martyr's death....well so did Dee, so doesn't it even the scales a bit? I think there will be loving words exchanged next week (because Kara does love him) but there's no way they're going to get back together in a romantic way. The Space preview heavily focuses on Sam and I think we're going to delve more into his destiny/final Fiver status.
ETA: I can see how the parallels to what's going on with SV lately could possibly make this more annoying for you too though!
One thing I really loved about this week's episode was all the humor!! This show has found its sense of humor again. Lee's "It would have been funny if you did it." Romo's "But I'm not a very good shot." Tigh had some good wisecracks too.
And I REALLY LOVED the fact that Gaeta called Bill on the fact that he loves the ship and the idea of his people more than he loves his people on an individual level. I've been waiting for someone to say that to Bill for ages. But he's going to disregard/ignore it of course.
I still don't get whether it was for reals because how on Earth was Gaeta not restrained/in the brig for that convo? Yeah... I thought at first it was a flashback. Now could it be a dream? I guess the show makes so little sense though it could actually have happened.
I can see I've caused some confusion. I have no issue with Kara showing compassion for her dying husband. What I take issue with is the writing, which very clearly has wussed out on Kara making a clear decision or addressing any of the complex emotions between her and Anders.
I wasn't exactly a fan of the Lee/Dee shit either, if you recall. I was actually MORE pissy about that, to tell the truth. This Anders-dies-a-martyr's-death business was more what I expected whereas the Lee/Dee date was out-of-the-blue dreadful.
I do think there is a difference though between Lee and Kara--Lee made it obvious he was there for Kara if she wanted him (in the brig scene). Ever since then she hasn't acted on it. Yeah, Lee had the nostalgia-fest with Dee, but he wasn't saying he was actively in love with her--which is what you're saying Kara will say to Sam.
I also think if it had been anyone but Sam shot, Kara would have left them to die. She was such a hardass last ep, all about the killing and the mission. But Sam's different. That's fine, but it gives me my answer about her feelings for him.
The Space preview heavily focuses on Sam and I think we're going to delve more into his destiny/final Fiver status. Kill me now.
Yeah, I do like the return of humour! It returned a couple of eps ago and was most welcome. :D
I REALLY LOVED the fact that Gaeta called Bill on the fact that he loves the ship and the idea of his people more than he loves his people on an individual level. I've been waiting for someone to say that to Bill for ages. Yeah, good call! :D That was glorious. If only he hadn't been shot in the head for stating the truth.
I thought at first it was a flashback. Now could it be a dream? I guess the show makes so little sense though it could actually have happened. The writer's interview with Mo Ryan at the Chiago Tribune says it was supposed to be tricksy on purpose. Apparently it was real and in Gaeta's quarters (an RDM idea to make it tricksy. eh.)
the writing, which very clearly has wussed out on Kara making a clear decision or addressing any of the complex emotions between her and Anders. Ah yes. I think next week will be the end of the Kara/Sam romantic stuff. Just my spec.
Lee made it obvious he was there for Kara if she wanted him (in the brig scene). Ever since then she hasn't acted on it. Really? Hmm I didn't get that at all from the brig scene. I thought it was a "let me give you some confidence/kiss you goodbye so I can go play at destiny too." I wish they'd kept the extended bit with Aurora, that was a much bigger commitment between them I think and then I would've read it as Lee extending a promise of sorts to Kara. (But then the Lee/Dee stuff REALLY makes no sense...sigh. I guess it's best not to try to figure it all out. The writers will do what they do. For contrivance sake I'm sure they're stretching this out to the finale.)
Yeah, good call! :D That was glorious. If only he hadn't been shot in the head for stating the truth. It'll be interesting to see if/how they resolve this total dictatorship they've worked their way into.
then I would've read it as Lee extending a promise of sorts to Kara. I read it that way from the very beginning. But then Lee was still in character back then and I always felt in tune with him and understood him at an instinctive level. I certainly wasn't alone in reading it as Lee saying 'I respect that you're still married, but if/when you want me, I am yours'. I loved it. It's the last L/K anything I have loved. I'll end my personal canon there, I suspect because everything after that stings.
And yes, you see how the Lee/Dee made no sense? That's why I was so ragey about the stupid contrived writing. It made no character sense. And yet, that's where you run smack bang into the wall of 'give up, the writers will do what they want'. There's no character integrity at all.
f/how they resolve this total dictatorship they've worked their way into. Honestly? I don't think the writers see a problem with it.
I do agree that it was all resolved pretty tidily for Adama & Co., eh? I also loved the Gaeta/Baltar scene (although I still don't get whether it was for reals because how on Earth was Gaeta not restrained/in the brig for that convo? I mean Adama isn't that naive to let the leader of the rebellion just swan around untethered smoking cigarillos with Baltar in nicely appointed quarters, is he?)
Lee in the scene with the grenade?? ::DIES:: So hot and awesome. I haven't loved Lee like that in a long frakkin' time. Captain Apollo is indeed still in there somewhere.
Now let me defend my girl for a bit:
Kara/Anders. Ouch. How shortlived was the Kara/Lee teamwork? Sheesh. As soon as Sam showed up, it was over. And then of COURSE he got melodramatically shot and bled all over her and she had to be All About Sam and abandon Lee again. There's only two ways this will end: 1) he dies the martyr's death I predicted and Kara never gets over it or 2) he recovers slowly and they get back together and work through things. Either way, there goes my Kara again... Makes a farce of the kiss and Kara/Lee team stuff last week. She just wished he was Sam, let's face it.
C'mon now. It was okay for Lee to go on a date with his ex-wife but Kara can't show concern for her CURRENT HUSBAND WHO IS BLEEDING FROM THE NECK AND SEEMINGLY ABOUT TO DIE? I think she'd be castigated for being a cold bitch if she wasn't concerned about him, so I think she's screwed either way here. :(
Besides, if he does die a martyr's death....well so did Dee, so doesn't it even the scales a bit? I think there will be loving words exchanged next week (because Kara does love him) but there's no way they're going to get back together in a romantic way. The Space preview heavily focuses on Sam and I think we're going to delve more into his destiny/final Fiver status.
ETA: I can see how the parallels to what's going on with SV lately could possibly make this more annoying for you too though!
One thing I really loved about this week's episode was all the humor!! This show has found its sense of humor again. Lee's "It would have been funny if you did it." Romo's "But I'm not a very good shot." Tigh had some good wisecracks too.
And I REALLY LOVED the fact that Gaeta called Bill on the fact that he loves the ship and the idea of his people more than he loves his people on an individual level. I've been waiting for someone to say that to Bill for ages. But he's going to disregard/ignore it of course.
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Yeah... I thought at first it was a flashback. Now could it be a dream? I guess the show makes so little sense though it could actually have happened.
I can see I've caused some confusion. I have no issue with Kara showing compassion for her dying husband. What I take issue with is the writing, which very clearly has wussed out on Kara making a clear decision or addressing any of the complex emotions between her and Anders.
I wasn't exactly a fan of the Lee/Dee shit either, if you recall. I was actually MORE pissy about that, to tell the truth. This Anders-dies-a-martyr's-death business was more what I expected whereas the Lee/Dee date was out-of-the-blue dreadful.
I do think there is a difference though between Lee and Kara--Lee made it obvious he was there for Kara if she wanted him (in the brig scene). Ever since then she hasn't acted on it. Yeah, Lee had the nostalgia-fest with Dee, but he wasn't saying he was actively in love with her--which is what you're saying Kara will say to Sam.
I also think if it had been anyone but Sam shot, Kara would have left them to die. She was such a hardass last ep, all about the killing and the mission. But Sam's different. That's fine, but it gives me my answer about her feelings for him.
The Space preview heavily focuses on Sam and I think we're going to delve more into his destiny/final Fiver status.
Kill me now.
Yeah, I do like the return of humour! It returned a couple of eps ago and was most welcome. :D
I REALLY LOVED the fact that Gaeta called Bill on the fact that he loves the ship and the idea of his people more than he loves his people on an individual level. I've been waiting for someone to say that to Bill for ages.
Yeah, good call! :D That was glorious. If only he hadn't been shot in the head for stating the truth.
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The writer's interview with Mo Ryan at the Chiago Tribune says it was supposed to be tricksy on purpose. Apparently it was real and in Gaeta's quarters (an RDM idea to make it tricksy. eh.)
the writing, which very clearly has wussed out on Kara making a clear decision or addressing any of the complex emotions between her and Anders.
Ah yes. I think next week will be the end of the Kara/Sam romantic stuff. Just my spec.
Lee made it obvious he was there for Kara if she wanted him (in the brig scene). Ever since then she hasn't acted on it.
Really? Hmm I didn't get that at all from the brig scene. I thought it was a "let me give you some confidence/kiss you goodbye so I can go play at destiny too." I wish they'd kept the extended bit with Aurora, that was a much bigger commitment between them I think and then I would've read it as Lee extending a promise of sorts to Kara. (But then the Lee/Dee stuff REALLY makes no sense...sigh. I guess it's best not to try to figure it all out. The writers will do what they do. For contrivance sake I'm sure they're stretching this out to the finale.)
Yeah, good call! :D That was glorious. If only he hadn't been shot in the head for stating the truth.
It'll be interesting to see if/how they resolve this total dictatorship they've worked their way into.
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I read it that way from the very beginning. But then Lee was still in character back then and I always felt in tune with him and understood him at an instinctive level. I certainly wasn't alone in reading it as Lee saying 'I respect that you're still married, but if/when you want me, I am yours'. I loved it. It's the last L/K anything I have loved. I'll end my personal canon there, I suspect because everything after that stings.
And yes, you see how the Lee/Dee made no sense? That's why I was so ragey about the stupid contrived writing. It made no character sense. And yet, that's where you run smack bang into the wall of 'give up, the writers will do what they want'. There's no character integrity at all.
f/how they resolve this total dictatorship they've worked their way into.
Honestly? I don't think the writers see a problem with it.
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But it's Adama... what can possibly be wrong with him as sheriff Admiral?
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