not sure if i have the time right now to quote stuff (since this is actually procrastination and i should be reading about austrian-hungarian interrelations), but i'll try. :D
i genuinely, honestly think, despite everything that you've told me, ignoring my smutty OT5 gay-boys-all-around inclinations, that yoochun is in denial. :| because he is really too interested in changmin's gay sex life and doesn't seem to find it the least bit unattractive.
in the first couple of chapters, he was just very hyung and not so gay, but ever since changmin started getting a life, he started being too gay, yeah? i mean - he can go through a phase. he's allowed to watch gay porn for the plot, if he really wants too. but he should at least be kind of grimacy over the porn parts then, or something. and we need a proper (AND STRAIGHT) reason why he is so interested, if it isn't because he's gay. :3 because i can't think of any other reason.
...was that srsbnz enough for you? :D ♥ (and did it make sense?)
Yes it was srs bnz enough for me and yes it made sense. XDDD This is what I'm looking for. /responds :3
but he should at least be kind of grimacy over the porn parts thenBut why? Why do his reactions need to be at such extremes? Either he's turned on by it or he needs to be repulsed by it? Why is this the case? What's wrong with him just viewing it and responding with something to the tune of "well it doesn't do anything for me but it's not disgusting." I guess I don't see how him not being disgusted by gay porn somehow means he's gay
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oy, not saying that not being grimacy makes him gay. :) but he's a guy, and.. yoochun. and apparently very, very straight. so it would seem natural for him to be a bit, "...ohmygod" when he talks to changmin about gay things, if only to convince the readers that he's still straight. :)
he doesn't either have to be gay or homophobic, but in a 'verse where the majority (changmin, jaejoong, assumed yunho and junsu) are gay, and where changmin often wonders whether his roommate is turning gay, it makes it easier to believe that he is straight if he actually says so himself. he did in the beginning of the series, where he also dated a girl if i remember right, but lately it has seemed like his love life has come to a standstill. this could be because changmin, whose POV we see everything from, has been busy and has thus not paid attention to his roommates dates, but as far as i see it, as a reader, yoochun is just not going out. and he's watching lots of gay porn, and being very, very interested in his gay roommate's life, yeah?
Yes, in the beginning Chun made a few comments about some girl he was seeing. He mentioned he split with her at the beginning of the third chapter and yes, there hasn't been a mention of a girl since...
but lately it has seemed like his love life has come to a standstill -BUT remember that the third chapter only took place... less than two weeks ago, in fic time. With midterms coming up, Chun has actually been a better student than him and has been busy with school (lawl cause he actually knew when HIS midterms were XD). Chun might be a bit of a player but you think he'd already have moved on to another girl in less than two weeks? ;__;
but as far as i see it, as a reader, yoochun is just not going outChun IS actually out quite a bit in this chapter. He was out when Min showered at the beginning of the chapter (which was Friday night). He was out when Jaejoong called in the following scene (Saturday night). He was coming home from a party/bar/somewhere (as he reeked of cigarettes and was drunk) during the watching-porn-together
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but didn't he have a flavor-of-the-week thing? :| it made me assume that he had a new girl every week, which should lead to him having been out with two girls in the past chapters. which he hasn't. :| and my image of yoochun is so greasy, so. 8D
ah, okay, what i meant there was 'yoochun is just not going out with a girl'. :D or, he doesn't actually mention where he has been, but considering how much changmin tells him about his love life, you'd think they'd talk about yoochun love life too, if he had one. :3
when you put it that way, changmin doesn't sound like a very nice magnae. :|
not all guys are like that... no, but i'm assuming that yoochun is a bit, considering the way we was in the beginning of porn star
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Sure, it had been his flavor-of-the-week, but boy is smart and knew he had midterms in the very near future. :3
Ahh, going out with a girl. Well, again, Min has no idea where Chun has been :3 Chun could be out one-night-standing it up with lots of girls. We have no idea because Chun's been too wrapped up in his own love life lately (and, uh, not failing his classes XD) to ask.
LOL he's not a bad magnae! He's just busyyyy XD Chun understands this. They haven't done much heart-to-heart stuff lately. They'll get back around to it.
What's wrong with the way he was at the beginning of porn star? he was totally comfortable making jokes about himself being gay back then
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i knoooooooow, and it makes sense, but it doesn't exactly us give us reason to think that he's NOT gay. 8D i mean, he's not going out with girls and he's watching gay porn. surely you see my logic..? 8D
he is too. :| especially after that scene where they got drunk, and yoochun was all protective hyung and changmin just doesn't care. :| changmin is a jerk
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But the thing is, he isn't watching gay porn. He's watching the plot-oriented parts of "movie"-porn, and fast-forwarding through the sex. Seriously. I don't want to actually give away why he's doing all this -and there is a reason, honestly- but a big part of it is simply because he wants to see what it's like, and why Changmin enjoys watching these things. That's all. And actually, he HAS been going out with girls. The point is that we don't know this stuff yet because Min doesn't know it because he hasn't been prying like Chun does. XD
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but no one watches porn for the plot! 8D because we're not told/we don't see him fast-forwarding through the sex. and now that i know that you've got a reason - well, you can't expect people to think he's straight if you haven't revealed the reason. :| he wants to see what it's like, and why Changmin enjoys watching these things well, why does he watch normal porn? :| isn't it.. obvious?
yes, but he was a totally nice and protective hyung afterwards! 8D well, yoochun should date a girl long-term then. :( then it would be easier to believe that he's straight.
He doesn't watch normal porn cause Min doesn't have normal porn XDDD And he wanted to watch what CHANGMIN is watching, because he's just trying to understand his roommate a bit more, and the things Min and Jae are doing behind closed doors (errr, will be, since they're not doing it yet :3)
YOU'RE the one in denialll! XDDD After seeing all these signs of his heterosexuality, you want to keep insisting poor Chun is hungry for peen. :3 Admit it, you just want some insane JaeChunMin dorm room threesome. :/
Naw, Chun is still sowing his wild oats in college XDDDD He won't settle down with one girl for quite some time I think. :3
Sorry I never came back and replied to you ;__; I'm so easily distracted, sobbb.
i genuinely, honestly think, despite everything that you've told me, ignoring my smutty OT5 gay-boys-all-around inclinations, that yoochun is in denial. :| because he is really too interested in changmin's gay sex life and doesn't seem to find it the least bit unattractive.
in the first couple of chapters, he was just very hyung and not so gay, but ever since changmin started getting a life, he started being too gay, yeah? i mean - he can go through a phase. he's allowed to watch gay porn for the plot, if he really wants too. but he should at least be kind of grimacy over the porn parts then, or something. and we need a proper (AND STRAIGHT) reason why he is so interested, if it isn't because he's gay. :3 because i can't think of any other reason.
...was that srsbnz enough for you? :D ♥ (and did it make sense?)
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but he should at least be kind of grimacy over the porn parts thenBut why? Why do his reactions need to be at such extremes? Either he's turned on by it or he needs to be repulsed by it? Why is this the case? What's wrong with him just viewing it and responding with something to the tune of "well it doesn't do anything for me but it's not disgusting." I guess I don't see how him not being disgusted by gay porn somehow means he's gay ( ... )
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he doesn't either have to be gay or homophobic, but in a 'verse where the majority (changmin, jaejoong, assumed yunho and junsu) are gay, and where changmin often wonders whether his roommate is turning gay, it makes it easier to believe that he is straight if he actually says so himself. he did in the beginning of the series, where he also dated a girl if i remember right, but lately it has seemed like his love life has come to a standstill. this could be because changmin, whose POV we see everything from, has been busy and has thus not paid attention to his roommates dates, but as far as i see it, as a reader, yoochun is just not going out. and he's watching lots of gay porn, and being very, very interested in his gay roommate's life, yeah?
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but lately it has seemed like his love life has come to a standstill
-BUT remember that the third chapter only took place... less than two weeks ago, in fic time. With midterms coming up, Chun has actually been a better student than him and has been busy with school (lawl cause he actually knew when HIS midterms were XD). Chun might be a bit of a player but you think he'd already have moved on to another girl in less than two weeks? ;__;
but as far as i see it, as a reader, yoochun is just not going outChun IS actually out quite a bit in this chapter. He was out when Min showered at the beginning of the chapter (which was Friday night). He was out when Jaejoong called in the following scene (Saturday night). He was coming home from a party/bar/somewhere (as he reeked of cigarettes and was drunk) during the watching-porn-together ( ... )
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ah, okay, what i meant there was 'yoochun is just not going out with a girl'. :D or, he doesn't actually mention where he has been, but considering how much changmin tells him about his love life, you'd think they'd talk about yoochun love life too, if he had one. :3
when you put it that way, changmin doesn't sound like a very nice magnae. :|
not all guys are like that... no, but i'm assuming that yoochun is a bit, considering the way we was in the beginning of porn star ( ... )
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Ahh, going out with a girl. Well, again, Min has no idea where Chun has been :3 Chun could be out one-night-standing it up with lots of girls. We have no idea because Chun's been too wrapped up in his own love life lately (and, uh, not failing his classes XD) to ask.
LOL he's not a bad magnae! He's just busyyyy XD Chun understands this. They haven't done much heart-to-heart stuff lately. They'll get back around to it.
What's wrong with the way he was at the beginning of porn star? he was totally comfortable making jokes about himself being gay back then ( ... )
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he is too. :| especially after that scene where they got drunk, and yoochun was all protective hyung and changmin just doesn't care. :| changmin is a jerk ( ... )
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he wants to see what it's like, and why Changmin enjoys watching these things well, why does he watch normal porn? :| isn't it.. obvious?
yes, but he was a totally nice and protective hyung afterwards! 8D
well, yoochun should date a girl long-term then. :( then it would be easier to believe that he's straight.
..yet. ;__; -grabs tissues-
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... totally unrelated but I did more brainstorming today and sobbing fucking forever I think this story is gonna end up getting longer. :|||
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...YES! :D
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YOU'RE the one in denialll! XDDD After seeing all these signs of his heterosexuality, you want to keep insisting poor Chun is hungry for peen. :3 Admit it, you just want some insane JaeChunMin dorm room threesome. :/
Naw, Chun is still sowing his wild oats in college XDDDD He won't settle down with one girl for quite some time I think. :3
Sorry I never came back and replied to you ;__; I'm so easily distracted, sobbb.
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