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[book_junkie007]

TV Line has an article on the top 20 biggest disappointments on TV in 2011. Not surprisingly, Torchwood: Miracle Day is one of them. Their reason:

The Endless Miracle Day
Too many new faces, too little Captain Jack/Gwen twosome time and a way-too-big plot resulted in a welcome, yes, yet grim and slogging Torchwood mission.

TV's 20 Biggest

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[firesnap]

I never understand the debate over why the books aren't canon. RTD read over them and stamped them with approval, made authors change stuff he didn't like, and let them be published. But, I always just shrug at that. Some people consider it canon, some don't.

On that note, you're the first person I've ever discussed Torchwood with that doesn't consider the radio plays canon. They had the original actors, tied into the series they were aired before, were approved by RTD and written by people who handled the episodes for the shows. They were either episodes that they couldn't afford to do or make up for a not-full season.

I liked parts of Miracle Day. I still hold to that. There wasn't enough of Jack and Gwen -- especially Jack. He was almost secondary to all the action. I really loved Vera. She was a good character addition to the collection of great characters that came out of Torchwood. But yeah, my fiance commented that he felt like watching the show was 50% of him waiting for Jack and Gwen to get back on the screen

[book_junkie007]

My issue is that with the books and the radio plays, there's no defined time period for them other than vague, it's during series one, or between two or three, or whatever. It's more of a sliding scale of relation to canon, which makes it more difficult to judge when exactly it took place. I realise that fanfic is written under the same mentality, though, which makes me an oddity (what else is new). I've never heard the radio plays either, so I probably shouldn't be making definitive choices about whether they're canon.

I need to know exactly when something occurs in relation to other events, or else it drives me nuts. I've even gone so far as to write out a timeline for the events of 2.06 to 3.08 of Being Human for a fic I'm writing, just so I don't mess things up. (Fun fact: George and Sam were only together for a month or a little over a month before he proposed to her.)

I agree with the rest of your comment, and don't apologize for writing a long comment. They're your opinions and they deserve to be heard. :)

[firesnap]

Well, I know someone went through and on Wikipedia lists between which episodes all of the books take place, if that helps. It's still mostly "Pre-Cyberwoman" or "Pre-Reset" rather than anything terribly specific

[book_junkie007]

Awesome, thanks for the recommendation. :)

Don't worry, it's clear you enjoyed watching Miracle Day overall. I adore Jack and Gwen as well, and will take them wherever I can, which will mean expanding my horizons on canon.

[karaokegal]

At least they were upset at too little Jack/Gwen as opposed to certain
contingents who were whinging about too much and the lack of their pet woobie.

[book_junkie007]

I'm actually surprised it made the list at all. The majority of shows the entertainment sites cover are on the public networks, so the fact that a specialized genre show, which was on a premium channel no less, made the list is amazing to me.