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alchemywow (7:42:45 PM): would you call your work emotional?
iizdamoose (7:43:54 PM): one second!
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iizdamoose (7:59:26 PM): alive?
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alchemywow (8:03:15 PM): mmhmm
iizdamoose (8:07:22 PM): i wouldn't say my art is simply emotional
iizdamoose (8:07:33 PM): i mean it is sometimes
iizdamoose (8:07:46 PM): nastalgia would be a better replacement
alchemywow (8:07:47 PM): hmm
alchemywow (8:11:07 PM): for some reason i am having a hard time dissociating my work from like... super-saturated emotion
alchemywow (8:11:12 PM): and i am starting to see it in other people
iizdamoose (8:12:30 PM): super saturated emotion is interesting to me
iizdamoose (8:12:53 PM): there's a certain about of sacharine sweetness to alot of what i do
iizdamoose (8:13:08 PM): and i think that could be taken as super saturated emotion/nastalgia
iizdamoose (8:13:17 PM): but i dunno, i'll tell you in 5 years
alchemywow (8:13:56 PM): ha
alchemywow (8:14:14 PM): i feel like it is so important for me to see work from an emotional stand point
iizdamoose (8:14:37 PM): yours or others, or both?
alchemywow (8:15:07 PM): both
iizdamoose (8:15:45 PM): well it sounds like you just want to balance emotion with academic criticism or something
iizdamoose (8:15:53 PM): the later being something that seems to come more natural to you
iizdamoose (8:16:21 PM): but whateva
alchemywow (8:26:51 PM): what?
alchemywow (8:30:25 PM): i do not think that i am more naturally an academic at all
alchemywow (8:32:38 PM): i think all art has to be led by some for of poetry
iizdamoose (8:32:57 PM): thats a pretty valid statement
iizdamoose (8:33:27 PM): but i would ask you not use the word all, or make clear that you don't mean all verbal or written poetry
iizdamoose (8:34:11 PM): i just keep thinking of pre historical structures of religion, or negative hand prints on walls
iizdamoose (8:34:25 PM): and how they are removed from verbal poetry
alchemywow (8:34:36 PM): "poetry" in a very abstract sense i mean, of course
iizdamoose (8:34:38 PM): i dunno, maybe i took your statement in a wrong direction
alchemywow (8:35:25 PM): i am talking about poetics in terms of the non-literal
alchemywow (8:35:35 PM): metaphoric gestures.
iizdamoose (8:36:13 PM): then poetic gesture IS art
iizdamoose (8:36:18 PM): so yeh
alchemywow (8:36:26 PM): like the beginning of metaphor in a big way the beginning of metaphor
alchemywow (8:36:45 PM): oops
alchemywow (8:36:46 PM): ha ha
iizdamoose (8:36:56 PM): i like how words are the beginin of metaphor
alchemywow (8:37:02 PM): the beginning of metaphor in a big way is that hand print on a cave wall.
alchemywow (8:37:04 PM): i don't think so
iizdamoose (8:37:10 PM): well
iizdamoose (8:37:26 PM): i mean, the idea that a word is an analog to an object or feeling or place
iizdamoose (8:37:32 PM): and how naming started
alchemywow (8:37:51 PM): linguistics is very complicated
alchemywow (8:38:01 PM): and a history onto its own apart of what i am talking about, i think
iizdamoose (8:38:07 PM): oh ok
iizdamoose (8:38:10 PM): so back on track
iizdamoose (8:38:20 PM): the begining of metaphor?
iizdamoose (8:38:34 PM): hand print
alchemywow (8:38:38 PM): the first metaphor for me would be like... the first time someone mistook a form in the woods to be something that it was not.
alchemywow (8:39:02 PM): the first manmade metaphor could be something like the handprint.
alchemywow (8:39:15 PM): something that is what it is simultaneously not.
iizdamoose (8:39:29 PM): then arguabely visual misinterpetation as a child could be the first metaphor
alchemywow (8:39:35 PM): yes
alchemywow (8:39:48 PM): in a way we are trained to think in metaphor.
iizdamoose (8:40:02 PM): ah this is the good stuff
iizdamoose (8:40:37 PM): i love thinking of words and things stored in our brains as the little annalogs or metaphors for whatever experience inspired them
alchemywow (8:40:44 PM): mmhmm
alchemywow (8:40:51 PM): that is something i am really interested in
alchemywow (8:41:07 PM): how objects, people, places, things are turned into images.
alchemywow (8:41:17 PM): or language.
iizdamoose (8:41:23 PM): you think brains turn things into images?
alchemywow (8:41:29 PM): yes
alchemywow (8:41:33 PM): absolutely
iizdamoose (8:41:33 PM): hmm,
alchemywow (8:41:39 PM): "images"
iizdamoose (8:41:40 PM): not absolutely
alchemywow (8:41:47 PM): then what
iizdamoose (8:42:05 PM): i dunno, there's a aspect of memory that has alot to do with texture
iizdamoose (8:42:12 PM): and physical presence
iizdamoose (8:42:16 PM): that is very NON image
iizdamoose (8:42:30 PM): i agree that the brains main and most concrete ability is the image aspect
iizdamoose (8:42:48 PM): but i just dont think it is its sole function
alchemywow (8:43:10 PM): but the localization of those textures and presences, how we combine them to form memory, it is image making
iizdamoose (8:43:40 PM): what about smell!
alchemywow (8:43:56 PM): you can't really talk about "smell" on it's own
iizdamoose (8:44:03 PM): so are you talking about "image" as representation and not as in two dimentional thing
alchemywow (8:44:09 PM): yes yes
alchemywow (8:44:21 PM): representation is in fact a more accurate word for what i am talking about
iizdamoose (8:44:38 PM): well i supose that all adds up then
alchemywow (8:45:44 PM): AND SO
alchemywow (8:46:09 PM): we form ideas, memory in fact by forming representations.
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