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Nov 02, 2004 10:43

Listening to a guy talk about a new report on global warming - "It' is very real, and will be catastrophic." - Well no shit our atmosphere operates within a small margin of degrees, thats pretty fucking easy to fuck up with a world bent on globalization ( Read more... )

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jetstobrazil November 3 2004, 19:19:22 UTC
I think this is accurate to a fault, but it loses credibility with your arrogance I'm sorry to say, considering Shannon was only speaking her opinion and quite humbly at that. When you say Anarchy could work very easily save for all the ignorant, uneducated, selfish bastards, considering people are what up make a system of government, that's akin to saying any idea ever thought up could be executed successfully if only it's flaws and complications didn't exist. Of course that's true, but much like Communism, it really only looks good on paper. Anything further, and as you said, you get a sort of mob mentality. Any idea will work once you alleviate it's faults, that's common sense. You also say that maybe if we weren't individuals raised on television and catalogs that it would work, however we're one of only a handful of cultures that are brought up this way in the grand scheme of things and Anarchistic governments are next to nonexistent. I'm not sure if you're onto something that the billions of other sentient, logical beings ( ... )

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jetstobrazil November 4 2004, 18:57:03 UTC
I've only a few more points to make and then I'll leave you all to your own devices, letting you argue over what Anarchy is and is not. I got the points you were making, I just didn't agree with them. I hope you don't always take someone not agreeing with you as missing your points. Something looking good on paper is an age old phrase, and not something new or something I came up with on my own. It means, on the off chance you're unsure, that it is a great idea but that's all it will be. Communism was tried out and very few nations today are still Communist if not only China, Vietnam, Cuba, and North Korea (and even those aren't entirely communist governments). The reasons that you yourself mentioned (ex. "corrupt leaders of the countries that implemented it," and "IGNORANT, UNEDUCATED, SELFISH morons") are the reasons these forms of government (or lack thereof) would not work ( ... )

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jetstobrazil November 5 2004, 16:08:09 UTC
I don't think euphemism was the word you were looking for, but regardless, I didn't coin the phrase "looks good on paper" so I'm not going to defend it to it's death. I just think you're taking it far more literally than it was meant to be taken. It's a saying. When someone says they "feel like shit," they don't literally have the texture of feces; you have to read between the lines on that one, chief ( ... )

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camecrashing November 3 2004, 19:30:16 UTC
my apologies. This was written late at night. the supreme court NOT the senate decides whether they take it to court. It is, however, NOT the electoral college. Jibberish cliche? You're the one talking about Anarchism working. It doesn't even work in THEORY.

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camecrashing November 3 2004, 20:07:51 UTC
I feel as though I need to add more to this.

The electoral college is not an actual entity. There's no real electoral college.

"Only 538 persons, representing the slates of electors chosen by voters in the fifty states and the District of Columbia, actually vote directly for president" from

that is based on voting districts within the states.

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black_sails November 3 2004, 20:16:05 UTC
Huh? This really makes no sense to me Shannon. There is an electorial college. Its made up of real people. I have no idea how your quote supports your statement.

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camecrashing November 3 2004, 21:15:54 UTC
The quote proves that I didn't say the Electoral College isn't real.
It is made up of 538 people. Every state gets 2 (the number of state senators), and then however many US representatives it has.
The Electoral College isn't A PLACE...it's a process is all I meant by that, Bobby. & that the trial is held by the Supreme Court. Thusly, it is decided by the Supreme Court, just like in 2000 when the Florida Supreme Court ruled Bush over Gore. http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-949.ZPC.html

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black_sails November 3 2004, 21:32:45 UTC
Um okay... just a few posts up you wrote "The electoral college is not an actual entity. There's no real electoral college. "... but whos arguing that it is a psychical place? I mean chicken tastes like chicken. Cars drive on roads. I dont get it.

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camecrashing November 3 2004, 23:41:05 UTC
"chicken tastes like chicken. Cars drive on roads." I don't know what that means, but I mean what I said. The Electoral college is not an entity (as in, it's not a place). There's no real electoral college in a literal sense. It's a process of doing things.

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black_sails November 4 2004, 05:37:28 UTC
How is a group of people not real? I just don’t understand the point your trying to make. As for my comment, I was randomly stating obvious facts for no apparent reason.

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jetstobrazil November 4 2004, 18:33:46 UTC
Unless I'm wrong (and here's to hoping you won't find some way to twist things around and tell me I am), no one was disputing why the Supreme Court became involved in 2000.

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