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adamsmasher March 6 2009, 08:33:48 UTC
thingwraith (my wife) sent me over here; we just watched the video of your husband's previous band on youtube. I was going to leave a comment there, but since youtube is a cesspool full of flaming trolls, she thought it would be better to leave a comment here ( ... )

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bird March 6 2009, 16:41:13 UTC
thank you so much for commenting here. i appreciate it as i was BEYOND offended! A was very self-concious about his vocals, and was never totally comfortable singing, so what they are saying just broke my heart. the funny part is that if he read those comments (i didnt even mention to him that i sent that link, for fear he would go look it up and see those comments), he would probably laugh and say that it was no big deal. but i think deep down it would bother him.

thank you for your very sweet comment, A works very hard on his bands, so he is always thankful when someone listens, and excited when they enjoy what he has accomplished.

p.s. of course you arent a screwball!

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adamsmasher March 6 2009, 20:15:57 UTC
Adi's vocals are very good! When it comes to extreme music like that, I greatly prefer vocals like that as they convey a lot more raw emotion and energy than someone trying to grunt as low as they can. I hoped that I achieved something similar in my old band ( ... )

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bird March 7 2009, 17:36:09 UTC
A has a friend that used to write record reviews and he always described those super low vocals as sounding like "a fat guy eating a bowl of Cheerios", which we never tired of. i agree that the way A did it conveyed a lot more emotion, which is probably the other reason that it bothered me to see people making fun of it. i didnt even think of that ( ... )

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adamsmasher March 7 2009, 21:30:21 UTC
Funny, we have a friend who says that you don't really need lyrics when you grunt like that. You can just go "B-B-B-B-B-B" in rhythm and it suffices. Every time we hear a band like that now, we just go B-B-B-B-B. I'm reminded of our friend's description of Pope John Paul just before he died... he said his sermon sounded like it was delivered by the guy from Graveland: "blarhfg rawwkkkkerrr dsdgahhhh grishnahhhk ( ... )

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bird March 8 2009, 07:49:02 UTC
that is EXACTLY what A would say! he would say that he liked how the person he was compared to sounded, so that it was rad, even though it wasnt intentional ( ... )

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adamsmasher March 8 2009, 09:19:13 UTC
Actually, I totally understand where you are coming from because Elis is the same way. I have 10+ years experience now trying to see her the way that I do. She is really very talented (as are you, from what Elis has shown me) and I really just want her to be able to see that for herself. A large part of the problem is that Elis has a strong drive to be original. In and of itself this is a good trait of course; personally I want everything I write to sound original, even though your influences are always going to show through some. In her case it will cause her to shoot down an idea before she's even begun it, never mind that I think what she would make would be 100 times better than what anyone else made ( ... )

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bird March 8 2009, 16:34:56 UTC
Elis and i have talked about the drive to be original, and how totally gutted we can feel when we find an idea we thought of elsewhere. not in the sense that there is any copying going on, but its no longer as "original". and we both said we knew it was vastly silly, but we couldnt stop ourselves from being like that. i dont know if it is a product maybe of when we were teenagers... i remember there being a lot of issues in high school with originality and who had copied who's idea... but probably most of that is the idea of teenagers thinking they invented everything. like no one else ever thought of wearing a nightgown out of the house or something ( ... )

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adamsmasher March 8 2009, 21:22:53 UTC
Hah... Elis has told me about how she wore a nightgown out of the house a few times. I'm going to guess you did the same? The need to be original is deeply ingrained into Elis's creative personality; I think that it's also tied to her view of her own identity. Creating something totally original validates herself as an individual, so when she sees something she thought no one else had thought of, it makes her feel insignificant and pedestrian. At least, that's my take on it anyway, and what do I know? Elis is much better at figuring people out than I am ( ... )

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bird March 10 2009, 21:51:51 UTC
she did that too?! i was obsessed with white lawn nightgowns and totally sported them out and about. i remember another girl who had seriously copied everything i did for two years doing that and it just freaking me out. like i said, teenagers think they invented everything. or i guess i did! i think you have a very good point about the need to create something original, i would like to think that my issue with it is something that meaningful, but i dont know. i tend to be really superficial in areas, so i cant project any depth on that personal issue in my case ( ... )

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adamsmasher March 11 2009, 02:01:03 UTC
lol Yes, she told me she had this black slip that she would wear out; it looked more like a dress than anything else so she figured why not? Elis had girls copying her too (these coincidences keep piling up, don't they?). When she saved the sides of her head and had a mohawk, several people followed suit. When I was a teen, I mostly just wanted to get noticed. In highschool I felt somewhat invisible, and being myself and exploring things that most people weren't interested in seemed to be the best way to counteract that. That was the appeal of metal when I was younger as well. I didn't care really care about being offensive so much as wanting to explore and express what seemed fresh and new compared to what everyone else was into. Being drawn to all things dark and morbid didn't hurt, but I had always been interested in that (wish i still had some of my drawings from way back then). it might seem superficial to you, but I'm sure that it's anything but in your case. Would anything so superficial have such a strong effect on you ( ... )

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bird March 11 2009, 17:13:00 UTC
i dont know why i did most of the things i did, probably because it was just fun and i didnt get the point of doing what everyone else was doing. i wish i had explored my motivations a little bit more because it probably would have revealed alot about myself, but now so much time has passed that i cant remember my feelings at the time. it was almost like i had a sick need to be teased and then get pissed about it, it seems like everything i did was designed to get people to make fun of me. i shaved my head, wore florescent 1960's dresses, nurses uniforms, literal chunks of eyeliner, and carried a lunchbox everywhere. i talked to myself and would roll around in the ivy and sat in the library reading the Encyclopedia of Crime. wtf... and then i would be like: omg, no one understands me! why are they making fun of me?! brilliant. thats all hilarious to me now, but at the time it was so upsetting ( ... )

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adamsmasher March 11 2009, 21:31:06 UTC
I think Elis just bought me the Encyclopedia of Crime... actually, take that back, it's called True Crime and it's a collection of news clipping articles from famous crimes of the last 250 years. I can live without the encyclopedia because I can just live on CrimeLibrary.com and Wikipedia. I <3 wikipedia and could read there all day ( ... )

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adamsmasher March 8 2009, 09:24:25 UTC
Man... LJ does not like long comments, especially when it thinks it's not encoded in UTF-8. Anyway, continuing on...Oh! Some of the mp3s are done uploading. This has been taking all day because our web host must have put some kind of cap on upload transfer rates. Bastards. Anyway, the first link is the metal band I did. These were recorded between 1997-1999; basically I just wanted to play really fast and noisy, and scream on top of it. And that's pretty much what I did ( ... )

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bird March 8 2009, 16:37:09 UTC
thank you for all that work you went through to post these! i will be back in town in a few days, and A and i can listen to these together. i am super pumped to hear them!!!

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adamsmasher March 8 2009, 21:24:28 UTC
Oh you're out of town? Guess I've got time to toss a few more things up there then :P I'll search through my bag of goodies and see what other crap I can spam you guys with. Thanks for taking a listen (well, when you get home)!

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