Luke Roberts is pacing in the lobby of the Kashtta Tower. He has to respond to Arlin, but he doesn't know what to say to him yet. Luke believes him. Arlin seems sincere, and Luke really wants to get out. He doesn't want to have to be a bother to Torchwood or to put any of these people into danger. A hail of bullets and lion is what Gene said...
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"May I?" she asks, motioning to the empty chair across from her.
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"There's always room at my table for you," she says, and then nods toward the empty seat. "Please, join me. We can get caffeinated together."
She never sticks in brooding mode for long. It's a rather useless mode to be in as it is.
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Rachel's mostly subsisted on coffee alone. These days she isn't bogged down by work but she still finds she needs her daily dose of caffeine.
She then leans forward on propped elbows, face still sympathetic. "You look like you have a lot on your mind. Are you sure I'm not interrupting?"
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"I've almost always got a lot on my mind. Besides, it's not healthy to brood. I would much rather be talking to you," she insists, and then sips her cappuccino carefully as it's still hot.
She sets her drink down, again, as her expression turns a bit more serious. "We've got things to discuss anyway, haven't we?"
She's been rather anxious to hear what Rachel has to say about Crane, and then the whole matter of a legal system has especially been weighing on her heart lately though she can't place why. It might be out of a need to do something to improve this place.
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She's considered the matter carefully for the past few days. Rachel never makes a decision lightly, and she wrestles with the pros and cons of a certain situation until she's certain which path to take.
"What I'd first like to discuss is Jonathan Crane. He's from my world, back in Gotham."
Her throat is dry at this point, but her steady hands never betray her. "I don't trust him. One should be careful around him. I felt it was my responsibility to tell you."
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"Thank you for telling me, Rachel. I appreciate it." She frowns thoughtfully, and then taps her fingers on the outside of her coffee cup. "I met him earlier actually. I felt like I was getting some strange vibes from him, but I thought maybe I was only being paranoid. Now that you've confirmed my suspicions with your own... I'll be sure to keep a closer eye on him."
She worries about telling other people, but it's difficult to do that when he hasn't actually done anything. She'll have to keep an eye out and hope that that's enough.
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She takes another drink of her coffee. It's doing its duty waking her up and making her feel more alert.
Martha takes in a deep breath, and then looks at Rachel and nods. "I believe in second chances as well. I've had a couple given to me before. We all make mistakes. There's darkness in each of us that can be triggered under the right circumstances, but..." She looks into her coffee. "Yes. It's much better to be safe than sorry. I do appreciate your telling me."
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She knows how darkness can drive a person. She also knows how powerful redemption can be. It comes with the territory. She's seen how a good person can turn into a criminal. How a criminal can rise above their own misdeeds and turn their life around.
She's just not sure the case applies to Jonathan Crane. Rachel's coffee remains mostly untouched, though both her hands cradle it. "I'll also be keeping an eye on him. If anything happens I believe you should know you'll be alerted of it immediately."
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"I appreciate that, too." She has the resources to handle almost anything that could happen. She knows who to call for what sort of situation.
Martha presses her cup between her hands, and then allows her expression to relax. "We were going to talk about legal matters, too, which is not the lightest of conversations, but I think it will be better than talking about Mr. Crane. Right?"
She can feel the seriousness lift from her slightly already. This conversation will be difficult, important, and serious as well, but there's less of a feeling of imminent, potential danger.
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She won't easily admit a weakness.
"Complicated, but yes I do believe it will be better. And it will get us somewhere." Rachel opens her bag, searching for the folder in which she keeps her notes. "I wish there was more to go on but from what I've gather - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong - there isn't a particular organization working on legislation so wanderers can obtain legal licensing outside of their original jurisdiction, much less wanderer rights."
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She glances at the notes in the folder approving of... well, folders and general organization skills. Of course, anyone that is a lawyer would need such skills to become one in the first place so it's not that she's surprised. Martha just approves.
"You are correct. There is nowhere for wanderers to go should they need protection or to prosecute someone who has wronged them. There are no set consequences for when someone has done something wrong. No jail. No court system. Nothing. We're left hanging to a certain extent, and I would imagine the angels, demons, and supernaturals are in the same boat. They are legally recognized by the state as citizens, and thus have certain inalienable rights. However, the situations and complications that occur in our part of the world would not be recognized in the legal system, and if they wanted to file charges against a wanderer... No luck there."
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"For starters, there's an angle we can work with if we're looking to bring this matter to the public view," Rachel begins as she places the notes beside her. She wants to explain it as simply as she possibly can.
"The problem is, when cases have involved equality issues and were brought before the federal courts - and this includes the U.S. Supreme Court - the courts consistently had a narrow interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment."
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She has plenty of notes that she's aware won't make much of a difference as of now. Court decisions introducing the modern civil rights era, Supreme Court debates and sentencing spanning the last 150 years...
Rachel takes a deep breath.
"It would start with other supernatural people," she replies affirmatively with a slight nod. "But if there are going to be laws that establish everyone as being able to have equal rights as well as being able to be equally prosecuted...there has to be a form of government that can uphold those rights. As it stands, is there anyone unofficially in charge?"
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It used to be Jack, but he's... gone.
"I don't know if we could find one person to be in charge of everyone. I'm not sure everyone would listen to just the one person, but if it were more like a group of people... I don't know. Maybe."
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