Probably also incoherent, and best served w/ saltladywindJuly 15 2009, 16:17:43 UTC
~head tilt, considers~ So. My household was watching Bulletproof Monk last week. Cheesy well-produced B-movie, plot and character-wise, but it does slide one or two really good bits of philosophy in. Example: The Nameless Monk is intentionally making The Protagonist uncomfortable and annoyed by being vague when Protagonist wants easy answers and being calm when Protagonist wants to upset him. Serves beautifully to make Protagonist *actually* *interested* in the interaction. When Protagonist asks "Why are these people chasing you?", Monk says, "I'll give it to you in a way you might understand. Why do hotdogs come in packs of 10, but hotdog buns only in packs of 8?" "What bullshit! That has nothing to do with this! You're jerking my chain!" cries Protagonist, bringing a small smile from Monk.
This set me thinking; the answer for both questions with which I am most peaceful is, "Because they do."
This is what came to mind--this, and a Martian habit from Heinlein books of "growing together" wherein the two people doing the growing just sit in eachother's presence for a while and Be with one another--when I read about your wanting goals for relationships.
Why do relationships if you don't seem to "level up"? ~shrug~ Why plant a seed if a tree doesn't pop up the next day? Everyday life is the path, methinks, but the trick is, sometimes it moves SLOW.
Re: Probably also incoherent, and best served w/ saltbelenenJuly 15 2009, 16:39:06 UTC
hee hee, I think the Protagonist hit it right on the head with "what bullshit!" -- it being bullshit (meaningless) that people chase / hotdogs & buns come in different numbers. Or maybe it means that supply can never meet demand in some things.
mm, yes, I understand that Being -- I've done that consciously with Hannah and Aurilion and Ash and completely unintentionally with Viv. ♥ I want to practice it more with people I feel less safe with, I think that would be a good growth path for me. Thank you so much for sharing that thought!
It's not that the relationships don't "level up," because they do! and it's not too slowly either -- some of them are coming along at quite a fast pace (for once I'm not feeling impatient, haha!) but I don't seem to be leveling up. It's like a video game you've already played all the way through -- playing it over, you miss discovering all those little tricks. You're still "leveling up" but you're not actually learning anything -- your brain is not "leveling up." I want it to be harder dammit. This is why I hated math. I've never been very tolerant of review. I don't like knowing things, I like discovering things.
Example: The Nameless Monk is intentionally making The Protagonist uncomfortable and annoyed by being vague when Protagonist wants easy answers and being calm when Protagonist wants to upset him. Serves beautifully to make Protagonist *actually* *interested* in the interaction. When Protagonist asks "Why are these people chasing you?", Monk says, "I'll give it to you in a way you might understand. Why do hotdogs come in packs of 10, but hotdog buns only in packs of 8?" "What bullshit! That has nothing to do with this! You're jerking my chain!" cries Protagonist, bringing a small smile from Monk.
This set me thinking; the answer for both questions with which I am most peaceful is, "Because they do."
This is what came to mind--this, and a Martian habit from Heinlein books of "growing together" wherein the two people doing the growing just sit in eachother's presence for a while and Be with one another--when I read about your wanting goals for relationships.
Why do relationships if you don't seem to "level up"? ~shrug~ Why plant a seed if a tree doesn't pop up the next day? Everyday life is the path, methinks, but the trick is, sometimes it moves SLOW.
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mm, yes, I understand that Being -- I've done that consciously with Hannah and Aurilion and Ash and completely unintentionally with Viv. ♥ I want to practice it more with people I feel less safe with, I think that would be a good growth path for me. Thank you so much for sharing that thought!
It's not that the relationships don't "level up," because they do! and it's not too slowly either -- some of them are coming along at quite a fast pace (for once I'm not feeling impatient, haha!) but I don't seem to be leveling up. It's like a video game you've already played all the way through -- playing it over, you miss discovering all those little tricks. You're still "leveling up" but you're not actually learning anything -- your brain is not "leveling up." I want it to be harder dammit. This is why I hated math. I've never been very tolerant of review. I don't like knowing things, I like discovering things.
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